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artexmg wrote:
Quick question, would you mind posting a screen shot with your X, Y and Z configuration? I just cannot get it totally right, the bed looks like 110% bigger.

Thanks!

For the Max
For the Orion

Thank you for posting those. You have helped out present and future owners of S3D.

jmpreuss wrote:

artexmg wrote:
Quick question, would you mind posting a screen shot with your X, Y and Z configuration? I just cannot get it totally right, the bed looks like 110% bigger.

Thanks!

For the Max

MachineMax.png

For the Orion

MachineOrion.png

Thanks!

Well, you know, I had this very numbers and work well with small prints, but for larger pieces (+9 Inch), they get out of the print bed.
The reason is (I just figured out last nigth) because X and Y should be for a square contained within the circle of the bed, which is of a radius 280 (S3D set it to 260, but it is wrong).

This is X=Y=RSin(45°)

So, the rigth X and Y for Rostock Max should be 198.

Now I have the bed at 100% and not to 110℅

Thanks for the corrected numbers. You have also helped out a lot of people.

Well, here is a graphic of what I tried to explain in the previous post. I think is easier this way

This is how it was BEFORE. The X and Y are set to the Radius, hence, the square bed (see the square outside the circle?) is bigger than the actual Onix heated bed.

What I found, after experimenting with X and Y in S3D, is that it is expecting those values to be of a square inside the Circle of the Printing Bed, instead of outside.

I believe this confusion is due to the Repetier to have X and Y = Radius. However, Repetier asks, as well, for the Radius and makes its own calculations for the bed

Anyway, these are the parameters I have for my Rostock Max; they seem to work fine. Before that, using X=Y=260 my large prints were caught "out of the bed". No good for the belts, they got bitten by the pulleys when the Cheapskates fell down hard!!! Here are the parameters that *should* work with Orion. I DO NOT own an Orion, so, I hadn't tested this values, so please, use caution the first time you go to the edges of X or Y. PS. The Z value, of course, depends on your actual height. I guess it is always the same value for Orions.

Does this mean that you can only print within the square area?

Eaglezsoar wrote:Does this mean that you can only print within the square area?

No, not at all.

The square is just to calculate the correct value for X and Y, nothing else.

Good you asked, as it could be misleading

Eaglezsoar wrote:Does this mean that you can only print within the square area?

I think this will clarify the point.

I printed a piece about 11" in its longest side; setting X and Y to 260mm, this is what I saw in preview. It seems that it fits really well and there is space to spare (about 1" each side).
But, when printed, this is how it was done (white circumference is the actual diameter of the Rostock Max=11", for those who are not familiar with it).:
As you can see, the piece is occupying the entire length of the bed, no space to spare!

Once I corrected the values for X and Y to get them *within* the white circle, I got the right size:
Maybe I'm being a little obsessed with this, but I just want to prevent others to get the printer go outside of the borders of the bed, as happened to me, with the undesired consequence of a GT2 belt being bitten hard by the pulleys

Cheers!

Your concern and desire to help others is appreciated. Thanks for posting all you have.

Looks like you are right at the limit of the max, pretty cool.

I see a couple of my little Rostock trays too! It would be great if you could post an "I made one " photo on thingiverse! Might help bolster my "innovative designer" image

cheers,
Michael

mhackney wrote:Looks like you are right at the limit of the max, pretty cool.

I see a couple of my little Rostock trays too! It would be great if you could post an "I made one " photo on thingiverse! Might help bolster my "innovative designer" image

cheers,
Michael

You spotted those little helpers very well, they are handy indeed!

It is already properly posted in Thingiverse, thanks for the design.

Great, thanks!

Nice example of how far out you can push them.

"I used to be a 3D Printer owner, then I took an arrow to the knee"

Is there anything special that needs to be added the gcode starting script in S3D for the Rostock Max? I'm sitting at the defaults settings as of this moment.

heathenx wrote:Is there anything special that needs to be added the gcode starting script in S3D for the Rostock Max? I'm sitting at the defaults settings as of this moment.

Nope, all what I want to be configured is done by the parameters on the User Interface. Unless you want to manipulate the GCode for something special (like a pause, for instance), you should be fine by using the UI.

Regards

@artexmg

The reason I asked was because before my actual part print starts (the skirt around my object) my extruder is dancing around a bit and appearing like it's trying to extrude something right in the middle of the plate. Eventually, a little filament oozes out and then my part print begins right on top of it. It's hard to explain. Maybe I should video it tomorrow and post it. Must be some kind of user error on my part. I don't understand what the hell it's doing.

I bought simplify3d recently after hearing some good things about it from friends. I asked Simplify3d for a demo but they refused. I figured that if it turned out to be crap I would fight hard for a refund. I have been fairly happy with KISS slicer but since it's been abandoned I wanted to a slicer that would continue to be supported and developed. I think Simplify3d is that slicer but only time will tell.

Out of all the slicers I have used (skeinforge, slic3r, cura, and KISS) Simplify3d has the most features. The ability to add and remove support manually is fantastic. I like the way it stores the settings in a factory file which can be unique to the stl or group of stl's. The gcode visualizations are also fantastic. For the most part I have been able to get prints on par or better quality than KISS. Cura and Slic3r were distant 2nd and 3rd for me. On some recent prints I am noticing some blobbing that I wasn't getting with KISS. I think this is because I had more frequent retractions in KISS. I think I can adjust the settings in Simplify3d to be similar.

I'm still in the getting to know you phase of this slicing relationship. That being said I am basically happy with the purchase. I don't mind the price if they are actively developing and improving it and it has a bright future. I bought it for its potential. However if this product was to be abandoned I wouldn't feel like it was money well spent. This is mainly because I already have a piece of unsupported (paid) software (KISS) that does most of what Simplify3d will do with similar quality.

I bought it before reading the comments in this thread and the comments on the simplify3d forums. Would I buy it now after having read it all? Yes. I have spent a lot more money on crap I never use. I am enjoying learning the ins and outs of it and to me it is by far the most polished slicing software I have tried. To me the experience was similar to buying Vcarve Pro (cnc software) only Simplify3d was much cheaper. Simplify3d's UI is nice and polished and it really feels like you are using a piece of commercial grade software.

Brendin

xnaron wrote:I bought simplify3d recently after hearing some good things about it from friends. I asked Simplify3d for a demo but they refused. I figured that if it turned out to be crap I would fight hard for a refund. I have been fairly happy with KISS slicer but since it's been abandoned I wanted to a slicer that would continue to be supported and developed. I think Simplify3d is that slicer but only time will tell.

Out of all the slicers I have used (skeinforge, slic3r, cura, and KISS) Simplify3d has the most features. The ability to add and remove support manually is fantastic. I like the way it stores the settings in a factory file which can be unique to the stl or group of stl's. The gcode visualizations are also fantastic. For the most part I have been able to get prints on par or better quality than KISS. Cura and Slic3r were distant 2nd and 3rd for me. On some recent prints I am noticing some blobbing that I wasn't getting with KISS. I think this is because I had more frequent retractions in KISS. I think I can adjust the settings in Simplify3d to be similar.

I'm still in the getting to know you phase of this slicing relationship. That being said I am basically happy with the purchase. I don't mind the price if they are actively developing and improving it and it has a bright future. I bought it for its potential. However if this product was to be abandoned I wouldn't feel like it was money well spent. This is mainly because I already have a piece of unsupported (paid) software (KISS) that does most of what Simplify3d will do with similar quality.

I bought it before reading the comments in this thread and the comments on the simplify3d forums. Would I buy it now after having read it all? Yes. I have spent a lot more money on crap I never use. I am enjoying learning the ins and outs of it and to me it is by far the most polished slicing software I have tried. To me the experience was similar to buying Vcarve Pro (cnc software) only Simplify3d was much cheaper. Simplify3d's UI is nice and polished and it really feels like you are using a piece of commercial grade software.

Brendin

That's a good endorsement of the product.
Do you know how long you are allowed to download updates? Most software is either a year or longer.
After your endorsement I am certainly tempted to purchase it.

Interesting I might pick it up to try.
I've been doing my try all the slicers thing again, and Cura 14 is now IMO better than KissSlicer.

"Better" is always relative! I use the fill patterns to produce parts that are decorative. KISS has the fantastic round fill that gives a lacey look like this:

[img]http://mhackney.zenfolio.com/img/s5/v12 ... 0688-3.jpg[/img]
None of the other slicers do this. Slic3r has a hexagonal fill which gives a different effect. But Cura and S3D only have linear and/or concentric fill patterns. Even for parts that do not have the fill exposed, the translucency of most PLAs looks great with this fill pattern.

I also pulled the trigger on s3d..

Michael, do you own Simplify 3D?

bubbasnow wrote:I also pulled the trigger on s3d..

Let us know how you feel about it after you have had a chance to put it through it's paces.

Eaglezsoar wrote:

bubbasnow wrote:I also pulled the trigger on s3d..

Let us know how you feel about it after you have had a chance to put it through it's paces.

single objects its working great, getting these multi-extruder prints to work is another story.

I purchased it after i waited 45 minutes for a multi-material stl in slic3r to export to gcode..Performance wise i sliced the same object in 30 seconds with this software.

*Sidenote*
I only use this for slicing, i haven't tried the host portion because i send it all to octopi

I use it primarily for slicing as well, although I do have it working great from simplify itself.

I just prefer all the control and such that repetier host offers for repetier firmware.

Got my smoothie board yesterday hurray!