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3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:26 am
by djdelorie
I'm replacing the heater resistors in my hotend, and noticed that there's plenty of space in the pre-drilled holes. I can fit a 4W or even 7W 6.8 ohm resistor in there. Is there any advantage to sticking with a smaller (physically) 3W resistor? Any advice on getting the heat efficiently out of the smaller resistor and into the hot end? The mismatched radius seems like it has very little contact with the aluminum.

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:01 am
by DerStig
djdelorie wrote:I'm replacing the heater resistors in my hotend, and noticed that there's plenty of space in the pre-drilled holes. I can fit a 4W or even 7W 6.8 ohm resistor in there. Is there any advantage to sticking with a smaller (physically) 3W resistor? Any advice on getting the heat efficiently out of the smaller resistor and into the hot end? The mismatched radius seems like it has very little contact with the aluminum.

Do yourself a favor and at least get a ceramic heater cartridge. Better yet just replace the hot end with a E3dv6

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:31 am
by geneb
If you increase the wattage of the resistor, it won't act as a heater any longer. :)

I would recommend going with a cartridge though - they're very effective. Toss in a threaded thermistor while you're at it. :)

g.

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:39 am
by Eric
geneb wrote:If you increase the wattage of the resistor, it won't act as a heater any longer. :)

I would recommend going with a cartridge though - they're very effective. Toss in a threaded thermistor while you're at it. :)

g.
That's not right. The resistance determines how much heat is generated in the circuit. The power rating is how many watts (in the form of heat) that resistor package is expected to dissapate in open air without failing. However, potting in a heatsink can greatly increase the effective heat dissapation and wattage rating, which is why the 3W resistor works at hot-end power levels. If you want to select a different resistor, pay particular attention to the temperature ratings. Generally only some of the wirewound resistors are suitable for hotend temperatures.

I agree with the advice to get a heater cartridge instead.

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:16 am
by djdelorie
An E3D is on the shopping list, but $2 in resistors gets me up and running again. I guess my question was... it seems a bigger wattage resistor is a snugger fit, and would transfer heat better, but a smaller wattage resistor concentrates the heat in one spot (if you pot it right). Which is preferred? Did SeeMeCNC choose a smaller diameter resistor on purpose?

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:32 pm
by Xenocrates
I think it was chosen a while ago, back when they still recommended packing aluminum foil around it. I would think that a larger resistor would be better though, as you have less insulation from the RTV. (lower wattages may also have been cheaper)

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:28 am
by Eaglezsoar
If you are still using resistors, I have an Edsel automobile I could sell you. :)

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:30 pm
by nitewatchman
Eaglezsoar wrote:If you are still using resistors, I have an Edsel automobile I could sell you. :)

If you really have an Edsel for sale, I really have some money.

gary

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:50 pm
by Windshadow
nitewatchman wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote:If you are still using resistors, I have an Edsel automobile I could sell you. :)

If you really have an Edsel for sale, I really have some money.

gary
10 to pick from here with a broad range of prices
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Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:08 am
by Eaglezsoar
nitewatchman wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote:If you are still using resistors, I have an Edsel automobile I could sell you. :)

If you really have an Edsel for sale, I really have some money.

gary
Just kidding, Gary.

Re: 3W, 4W, 7W hot end resistors...

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:20 pm
by nitewatchman
Eaglezsoar wrote:
nitewatchman wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote:If you are still using resistors, I have an Edsel automobile I could sell you. :)

If you really have an Edsel for sale, I really have some money.

gary
Just kidding, Gary.

You never know when it may be a Shelby in a barn.