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How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:29 pm
by dsl158
I was wondering if there was an installation guide for a z probe to work with OpenDACT

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:19 am
by derzaubererer
dsl158 wrote:I was wondering if there was an installation guide for a z probe to work with OpenDACT
i can tell you how i did it i wanted to write a short guide but im currently under a bit of stress so ill just post a quick walkthrough

you have to wire a Z probe of your choice i took a mechanical endstop switch and wired it to the z-min endstops of the rambo soldering the a cable to jumper pins and pluggging them in correctly.
you then have to choose a mount for your zprobe i got an e3d and found this wonderful mount on this board it works wonders try to use a mount wich has no x and y offsets since i couldnt get it to work with offsets http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php ... obe#p77845

afterwards you have to specify in the eeprom where you located your Z-Probe(if its z-min like mine you can use this

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#define FEATURE_Z_PROBE true
#define Z_PROBE_PIN 10(this is where it is plugged in)
#define Z_PROBE_PULLUP true
#define Z_PROBE_ON_HIGH true(this is for the logic when you want the probe to trigger most probes have NC (normally closed) and NO(Normally Open) contacs .so if you have messed up the wiring you can change the logic to the one you need here)
#define Z_PROBE_X_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_Y_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_WAIT_BEFORE_TEST false
#define Z_PROBE_SPEED 2
#define Z_PROBE_XY_SPEED 150
#define Z_PROBE_HEIGHT 39.91(this is the height difference between the nozzle and the switch activation point measure it using the paper grip method on the nozzle then mount the probe and bring it down till it triggers use 2-3 trys to get the most accurate trigger point possible)
#define Z_PROBE_START_SCRIPT ""
#define Z_PROBE_FINISHED_SCRIPT ""
when you have reflashed your eeprom you need to test your zprobe with the g32 command when you have z probe on high true it should read low when not pressed and high when pressed
if you got everything wrap it under your hotend open the opendact tool and go to advanced and change the fsr to the z probe specify the z height and give opendact some room to brief for the first few calibrations with probe height 20 or so i like to probe very slow with a mechanical switch so it doesnt change the probing point so much(something like 3-5mms is okay)

if you got questions i can help you i ccan post pictures of my setup too if you want . i have calibrated once with this and i havent had the need to recalibrate since then but if MY ZPROBE IS READY :mrgreen:

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:29 am
by dsl158
derzaubererer wrote:
dsl158 wrote:I was wondering if there was an installation guide for a z probe to work with OpenDACT
i can tell you how i did it i wanted to write a short guide but im currently under a bit of stress so ill just post a quick walkthrough

you have to wire a Z probe of your choice i took a mechanical endstop switch and wired it to the z-min endstops of the rambo soldering the a cable to jumper pins and pluggging them in correctly.
you then have to choose a mount for your zprobe i got an e3d and found this wonderful mount on this board it works wonders try to use a mount wich has no x and y offsets since i couldnt get it to work with offsets http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php ... obe#p77845

afterwards you have to specify in the eeprom where you located your Z-Probe(if its z-min like mine you can use this

Code: Select all

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#define FEATURE_Z_PROBE true
#define Z_PROBE_PIN 10(this is where it is plugged in)
#define Z_PROBE_PULLUP true
#define Z_PROBE_ON_HIGH true(this is for the logic when you want the probe to trigger most probes have NC (normally closed) and NO(Normally Open) contacs .so if you have messed up the wiring you can change the logic to the one you need here)
#define Z_PROBE_X_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_Y_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_WAIT_BEFORE_TEST false
#define Z_PROBE_SPEED 2
#define Z_PROBE_XY_SPEED 150
#define Z_PROBE_HEIGHT 39.91(this is the height difference between the nozzle and the switch activation point measure it using the paper grip method on the nozzle then mount the probe and bring it down till it triggers use 2-3 trys to get the most accurate trigger point possible)
#define Z_PROBE_START_SCRIPT ""
#define Z_PROBE_FINISHED_SCRIPT ""
when you have reflashed your eeprom you need to test your zprobe with the g32 command when you have z probe on high true it should read low when not pressed and high when pressed
if you got everything wrap it under your hotend open the opendact tool and go to advanced and change the fsr to the z probe specify the z height and give opendact some room to brief for the first few calibrations with probe height 20 or so i like to probe very slow with a mechanical switch so it doesnt change the probing point so much(something like 3-5mms is okay)

if you got questions i can help you i ccan post pictures of my setup too if you want . i have calibrated once with this and i havent had the need to recalibrate since then but if MY ZPROBE IS READY :mrgreen:
If you cool if you could post some pictures of your probe. Could you also show how you mounted it?

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:40 am
by derzaubererer
i pretty much took the mount and superglued a similar probe to this
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1069281

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:57 pm
by dsl158
derzaubererer wrote:i pretty much took the mount and superglued a similar probe to this
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1069281
God can you find this switch on amazon or something. Anywhere but that site. Alaska and Hawaii get it quicker than I will

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:35 pm
by Jimustanguitar
:) Buying 50 of them for $10 was worth the wait, originally.

Panasonic G16909 micro-switch. Marked with AV46h. Happy hunting!

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:52 pm
by derzaubererer
i dont have the same switch it was a switch that was almost the same size i superglued it on the stand and it works wonders

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:27 pm
by dsl158
derzaubererer wrote:i dont have the same switch it was a switch that was almost the same size i superglued it on the stand and it works wonders
can you link it?

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:28 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote::) Buying 50 of them for $10 was worth the wait, originally.

Panasonic G16909 micro-switch. Marked with AV46h. Happy hunting!
Did you get your probe working? I noticed your thread in troubleshooting

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:52 pm
by Jimustanguitar
dsl158 wrote:Did you get your probe working? I noticed your thread in troubleshooting
Haven't tried again yet, I've got a deadline that I'm printing for and haven't taken it out of commission to try again yet.
Also half way hoping that this thread pans out and finds my smoking gun before I do :)

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:54 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:
dsl158 wrote:Did you get your probe working? I noticed your thread in troubleshooting
Haven't tried again yet, I've got a deadline that I'm printing for and haven't taken it out of commission to try again yet.
Also half way hoping that this thread pans out and finds my smoking gun before I do :)
when derzaubererer links his switch I will try

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:20 am
by geneb
PSST! INSTALL FSRs! :)

g.

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:13 am
by derzaubererer
geneb wrote:PSST! INSTALL FSRs! :)

g.
as if you knew that they will arrive today:)))
ill probably gonna put them on the rostock this weekend but its so hard to find the bed screws here in europe:O ill probably gonna end up flexxing them shorter..

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:16 am
by dsl158
derzaubererer wrote:
geneb wrote:PSST! INSTALL FSRs! :)

g.
as if you knew that they will arrive today:)))
ill probably gonna put them on the rostock this weekend but its so hard to find the bed screws here in europe:O ill probably gonna end up flexxing them shorter..
Yes please show us master

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:24 am
by derzaubererer
dsl158 wrote:
derzaubererer wrote:
geneb wrote:PSST! INSTALL FSRs! :)

g.
as if you knew that they will arrive today:)))
ill probably gonna put them on the rostock this weekend but its so hard to find the bed screws here in europe:O ill probably gonna end up flexxing them shorter..
Yes please show us master
i really hope geneb walks me through this my ball arms arrived today aswell and when i get home ill prepare everything i need ill reprint the mounts for the fsr to give me a feel how this will work.ill probably open a thread when i get everything so i can ask questions while building it.

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:40 pm
by geneb
Sorry, I simply don't have the time. Everything you guys need to know is in mhackney's build thread.

g.

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:45 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote::) Buying 50 of them for $10 was worth the wait, originally.

Panasonic G16909 micro-switch. Marked with AV46h. Happy hunting!
Im having trouble with your probe mount, it doesnt seem to want to fit onto my block. The mount is too big am I doing something wrong?

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:57 am
by Jimustanguitar
Is your heater block roughly 16 x 20 x 11.5 millimeters?

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:18 am
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:Is your heater block roughly 16 x 20 x 11.5 millimeters?
I just measured it and it is 16 x 20 x 11.5

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:07 am
by Jimustanguitar
So which dimension of the mount doesn't fit? Can you take pictures and measurements?

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:21 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:So which dimension of the mount doesn't fit? Can you take pictures and measurements?
I threw it out Ill make another one and take a picture when I get home

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:22 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:So which dimension of the mount doesn't fit? Can you take pictures and measurements?
This hasnt been the first thing to not fit. The top cover for my e3d v6 that I printed out didnt fit

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:54 pm
by Jimustanguitar
Sounds like you might have an XY scaling issue.

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 3:32 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:Sounds like you might have an XY scaling issue.
How do I solve that because all my prints are too big

Re: How to use z probe with OpenDACT

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:47 pm
by dsl158
Jimustanguitar wrote:Sounds like you might have an XY scaling issue.
When I scale the object to 0.81 it fits