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Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:23 am
by teoman
I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:19 pm
by bdjohns1
teoman wrote:I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
I ended up only using one JST connector in my entire build, and that was because I used a screw-in thermistor.
I used a bunch of the latching polarized connectors (from Hansen Hobbies, the supplier geneb recommends in the build manual) for all of my low power connections (steppers, end stop wiring, fans, etc.
I'm actually in the process of moving over to a Smoothieboard to drive my printer and I'm mounting it externally, so now I'm using those connectors to build an umbilical to connect the controller to the printer.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:13 pm
by RAMTechRob
Can you tell me more about a screw in thermistor? To the hot end?
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:14 pm
by Captain Starfish
Just another alternative: I had those but wanted a single connector for the whole hot end - fans, thermistor, heater. The ceramic heaters have nice long leads on 'em, long enough you can happily solder the ends. Quick solder splices of the other leads and cover in heatshrink means it's now all one part with a connector that can handle the heater current, is designed for a vibration environment, is cheap and is available at any auto store:
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Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:43 pm
by Fiddler2070
teoman wrote:I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
Bastard! why didn't you post this before I crimped them by hand?!? Not to mention, they're much more expensive as parts from hansen
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:45 pm
by Fiddler2070
Captain Starfish wrote:Just another alternative: I had those but wanted a single connector for the whole hot end - fans, thermistor, heater. The ceramic heaters have nice long leads on 'em, long enough you can happily solder the ends. Quick solder splices of the other leads and cover in heatshrink means it's now all one part with a connector that can handle the heater current, is designed for a vibration environment, is cheap and is available at any auto store:
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http://www.simonlockwood.net/linky/3dp/e3dpart.jpg[/img]
What kind of connector is that? Looks interesting.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:26 am
by Captain Starfish
Standard automotive connector block that holds a bunch of spade connectors. Sold here in Oz as "Narva" brand mostly, but they're pretty much in any auto parts shop. Shown here is an eight pin block with only six pins installed, I've left room for the layer fan which I've not yet replaced since converting to an E3D hotend.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:27 am
by Herman
I remember screw in NTC-s that look like the RS-Components nr 1912184, but also a tabed type RS nr 1912128 This is probably not the right value and it needs to operate with the control unit that expects a certain room temp value. Usually these NTC's obey an exponential law with 2 fitting parameters one reaction speed. Either the controller program is made to handle only one type of NTC with these 2 parameters mandatory or some controllers can be programmed to accept other parameters. As the operating temperature of the hot end is quite high and different for PLA, ABS and/or Nylon you have to be sure what the controller can handle and which NTC's allow such high temperatures ( solder, paint and isolation ). The word thermistor can signify NegativeTemp.Coeff. (most semiconducting solids) or PositiveTC (most metals, much more linear) or even an electronic circuit that specializes in giving a temperature signal.
So before you decide to use an alternative for the ones in your box, be sure about the room temp resistance, the NTC/PTC type and with an NTC the 2 parameters the controller can handle.
I still have to build mine and I'm waiting for a no 1 melamine board before I can continue, so reading the forum's intro's I saw your question about screw-on thermistors was still unanswered.
Good luck with the build and use.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:03 am
by RegB
Nice find.
Thanks.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:46 am
by bdjohns1
RAMTechRob wrote:Can you tell me more about a screw in thermistor? To the hot end?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Modular-Screw-o ... 1341736569
Rated to 260C based on the JBWeld they pot the thermistor in.
You could pot a thermistor in something more temperature resistant yourself - they're just using a little M3 brass standoff to mount the thermistor in.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:25 am
by teoman
Fiddler2070 wrote:teoman wrote:I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
Bastard! why didn't you post this before I crimped them by hand?!? Not to mention, they're much more expensive as parts from hansen
i did. In a couple of threads. Infact i put it now in a separate thread because i felt like a pusher.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:10 pm
by Jimustanguitar
Captain Starfish wrote:Just another alternative: I had those but wanted a single connector for the whole hot end - fans, thermistor, heater.
Here's another option for a single connector hot-end setup:
http://www.themakerhive.com/shop/viewit ... oductid=18
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:34 pm
by RAMTechRob
Thanks bdjohns, it looks good to me.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:42 pm
by RegB
teoman wrote:I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
I ordered mine just about a month ago, they arrived today.
US $2.49 for 10 seemed so cheap as to be hardly worth while, so I doubled up.
NO IDEA what I will do with the whole $4.98 worth, so if anyone wants one or two send me an e-mail.
That way you won't have to wait a month.
BTW, they are pretty much as advertised, about 5 inches of wire on each, stripped back an 1/8 inch or so and tinned.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:05 pm
by teoman
I ordered 3 packs.
Used quite a few already.
I used 4 sets on my automatic cat feeder. I found a discarded toshiba laptop battery. Separeated the cells (it was a 2p3s config) in to 3 seets of 2p cells. Put a male and female on each. Put a male connector in the machine. Stuffed the batteries inside and no more replacing dcells.
As advertised, they can have bad quality control. So check that the black and red locations match. (Although all of mine matched)
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:48 pm
by redoverred
teoman wrote:I found these they have nice and flexible wire attached to them.
http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-10-Pa ... 50810.html
So if you are thinking of ordering the printer I would recommend getting these. Oh and download the manual and read it completely right now.
This is excellent. I hate putting pins in JST connectors, but now I don't have to!
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:28 pm
by teoman
I must admit that initially i thought that the wires were silicone coated wires. Those are very very flexible. But these ones are standard wires. They are also fit for purpose.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:37 pm
by teoman
I have been using these connectors for quite a bit now.
However I just discovered these:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-pcs-J ... 67166.html
They are basically the same connector but the wire SHOULD be much softer. I am ordering them now, and will report back once i receive them.
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:24 pm
by Eaglezsoar
The JST connectors are also located at Amazon.com at this link:
http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER%C2%AE-Batt ... 6082875217
Re: Ordering a printer and need connectors?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:21 pm
by teoman
The comment for those do not look to be too good. Apparently the polarity is incorrect (not that it matters when you are only delivering power to heating elements).
They do look like the ones in my initial post.
However, in the last post, the connectors are described as having silicone wire. If they are not lying, the silicone wire is like wet spaghetti. Which is nice to work with.