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Hi. I'm Nota, and I'm an addict

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I buy too many 3D Printers. (nailed it!)

I currently own a Replicator 2 and a FF Creator X (Received the Rep 2 on 18 March 2014 and the Creator X since the middle of April 2014) and currently have about 400 hours on the Rep 2 and 200 or so on the Creator X, so I obviously like to print.

I also currently have a Rostock Max kit in my shopping cart, ready to order.

I've been reading up on the Rostock Max and came across some, well, not so great reviews but I can't tell if they were recent, or for the V2, or for the original, or if the "reviewer" wasn't completely objective, so I thought I would check in with the forum to introduce myself and ask a few questions. I tried to list each of my initial concerns, and the info I've found to either allay that concern or if I am still a little confused on that item.

Bottom line is: I just want to be prepared for what arrives and adjust my expectations accordingly.

Kit Form:
I am not put off by the printer being in "kit" form since I have dabbled in a little of everything mechanical/electrical/electronic from performing frame-off restorations on motorcycles to building custom, water-cooled computers, car-puters, etc, to installing some pretty wild car stereo installations, so I am reasonably mechanically-inclined, can usually tell a negative lead from a positive lead. Also, I can usually use a soldering iron without setting myself on fire. (that only happened once :( )

Parts requiring additional finishing
I see in the description of the Max V2 that there has been a re-design of the hot-end platform and Delta arms and mounts to eliminate sanding. One of the concerns I saw in the worst of the reviews was that the parts weren't cut at the proper angles so there was a lot of futzing about required to make things fit. Is this still the case? I have about 346,947 Dremel attachments, so I'm not worried if that's the case, I just want to know what I'm in for before it arrives so I can clear an area out in the man cave and set up my work bench with the Dremel Table Router mounts.

EMI/ESD
The Creator X is susceptible to EMI/ESD so I wonder if I can reduce that risk with the Rostock Max. I have about 50ft2 of copper mesh so I can pretty much line the interior of the base to create a Faraday cage to keep interference away, but is the interior able to accommodate the mesh?

Those are my only concerns at present.

Nice to meet you all and I look forward to learning from you guys about the quirks of this weird 3-armed wonder..
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I can't be sure but the reviewer you are referring to is NOT objective, my opinion anyways. He seemed to exaggerate and have problems with simple things like peeling the masking tape of the parts for example.

The arm situation has changed completely and should not be an issue for you at all.

EMI/ESD can be an issue with any electronic product of course but there have not been any problems that I remember comming to mind. When building the printer try to run wiring logically and practice twisted pair wiring is what I normally do. The LCD ribbons should be kept from running next to power etc.

Sounds like you are going to be fine considering you have some experience with tools and such so I would not worry too much. Take your time and follow Gene's build guide carefully and everything will go well. Ask away in the forums here and you'll find we are a friendly bunch.
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Flateric wrote:I can't be sure but the reviewer you are referring to is NOT objective, my opinion anyways. He seemed to exaggerate and have problems with simple things like peeling the masking tape of the parts for example.

The arm situation has changed completely and should not be an issue for you at all.

EMI/ESD can be an issue with any electronic product of course but there have not been any problems that I remember comming to mind. When building the printer try to run wiring logically and practice twisted pair wiring is what I normally do. The LCD ribbons should be kept from running next to power etc.

Sounds like you are going to be fine considering you have some experience with tools and such so I would not worry too much. Take your time and follow Gene's build guide carefully and everything will go well. Ask away in the forums here and you'll find we are a friendly bunch.

Yeah "that" guy's video review. He had some valid points, but didn't express them very constructively. You could tell he was just very frustrated...but I understand that because I've been there myself with my Creator X. It arrived mangled and the 6mm thick aluminum build plate warped by over .152mm (only when heated >80°C) so it caused me a lot of frustration tracking down my leveling issues

I thought the response from the SeeMeCNC guy was very gracious considering the slant of the video review. That says a lotta good things about SeeMeCNC to me, so I went ahead and placed the order.

I just wanted to get an idea of what to be prepared for when it arrives...

Now I gotta sell my recliner to make room for it, lol.
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I recently put a Rostock Max V2 together. Basically everything I ran into was already addressed in the forums.

But probably the most important thing to NOT do... Stay up all night putting it together. Yeah I know we all did it. But I had a few things I had to take apart and flip around. I was so tired I closed my eye to thing about what I did, and almost fell asleep while standing. I still have a set of cheapskate eyes looking the wrong direction.

That reviewer had some ok points, if this was a commercial grade fully assembled machine. And I think his general mechanical understanding had some holes.

Yet, after seeing his review I was more convinced in the Rostock Max.
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It's nice to see there is a large community of people to tap for knowledge if I run into an issue. The board here seems pretty active and I think I'll be fine if I take my time and read through the build steps a few times before I go throwing stuff together to see what sticks.
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Ditto what Max said. I'm new to all of this and frankly amazed at the build kit. The laser cut parts are tight, in a good way. The instructions from Gene are awesome. The forum also contains a ton of extra info. Dive in and good luck with your decision.
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Welcome Nota!

See this thread to understand why you are an addict: http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=5423. ;)
Challenge yourself and be a more awesome you.
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You're better positioned to handle any challenges a kit might present. Nothing is without a few challenges.

The reviewer simply refused to think that they might learn something as the result of solving challenges or looking at the forum or alternatively, they were not willing to invest the time. I believe it was a simple case of buyer's remorse.

To me, the differences between a kit and a pre-assembled product are vast but rewarding if you have the right mindset. On my own, I could have never learned as much as I have without the kit or this forum.
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