Xnaron Printable Magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Xnaron Printable Magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
After seeing the awesome Berrybot3D by Werner Berry I got magnet fever and had to have one. I did not have the time to cnc mill and lathe the required parts out of metal so I decided to see if I could make a printable part set. Well I did and it worked better than I could have ever hoped. I'd like to share it with the community so they can benefit from it. Please find the details below. Don't hesitate to post any questions you have in this thread. The details below are a work in progress and I will continue updating them as required.
STL's:
https://github.com/xnaron/Xnaron-Magnarms-for-Rostock (openscad files to be uploaded in due course)
Parts:
- Magnets http://shop.revolutionmachines.com/3-8- ... 8-12pc.htm (BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET THE MAGNETS SNAP TOGETHER AND NEVER USE PLIERS ON THEM. THEY ARE FRAGILE AND CAN EASILY BREAK)
- Balls http://www.ebay.com/itm/380140413083
- Alum or carbon fiber tube x 6 @ exactly 240mm long
- 12 x 3mmx6mm cap head allen screws to be jb welded to the balls. Important: Clean the balls and the screws in an acetone bath before gluing.
- JB Weld (Mix it well)
- Assorted 3mm screws, washers and locknuts to mount the components
- CA glue
Optional Parts:
- Squirrel cage fans for cooling PLA. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180389680237
- os1r1s squirrel fan mount https://github.com/os1r1s-/misc-parts
Instructions/notes:
- Use a small dab of jb weld to glue the 3mmx6mm screw to the ball. I use one of the boom ends with the magnet in it in a vice to hold the ball. The magnet will help suck the screw down when you are gluing it. Let it cure under a lamp about 12" from the bulb.
- Use a 3mm washer under every ball on the effector and the cheapskate mounts.
- Use 3mm cap head screws to secure the cheapskate ball mounts to the cheapskate carriages.
- Use a longer 3mm screw to cut the threads for the balls in the effector and cheapskate ball mounts. Don't try and thread with the ball
- Use CA to glue the ball ends to the tubes if you don't have a push fit (don't forget to put the magnets in). Make sure all the arms are the same length.
- make sure you use 3/8" outer diameter tubes for the arms cut to exactly 240mm. This will match the firmware #define DELTA_DIAGONAL_ROD 269.0 // mm in configuration.h
- You need to #define END_EFFECTOR_HORIZONTAL_OFFSET 36.5 in configuration.h for the new effector. (if you don't do this you prints will be too large)
- The stock seemecnc hot end will work in this but don't use the standoffs. You want to keep the hotend away from the printed effector.
- I used 1/4" light ply to laser cut the all the dxfs EXCEPT for the J-Head groove mount which is thinner material.
BOWDEN Extruder:
- This bowden extruder derived from tscdan's excellent design.
- Files on my github
- Uses same ptfe pushfit that are on SeeMeCNC Rmax.
- Stepper Kysan 1040222 http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product ... ordID=8318
- Gear on stepper from Stock Drive products. Part number: s10t05m022s0508 https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog
- I am getting 60mm/s retracts with Rambo current set to 115. It is ultra quiet.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsbbOQ1Wqk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=611yF-Wudi0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cza9-P7ucyo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQCGrZwsbs[/youtube]
STL's:
https://github.com/xnaron/Xnaron-Magnarms-for-Rostock (openscad files to be uploaded in due course)
Parts:
- Magnets http://shop.revolutionmachines.com/3-8- ... 8-12pc.htm (BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET THE MAGNETS SNAP TOGETHER AND NEVER USE PLIERS ON THEM. THEY ARE FRAGILE AND CAN EASILY BREAK)
- Balls http://www.ebay.com/itm/380140413083
- Alum or carbon fiber tube x 6 @ exactly 240mm long
- 12 x 3mmx6mm cap head allen screws to be jb welded to the balls. Important: Clean the balls and the screws in an acetone bath before gluing.
- JB Weld (Mix it well)
- Assorted 3mm screws, washers and locknuts to mount the components
- CA glue
Optional Parts:
- Squirrel cage fans for cooling PLA. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180389680237
- os1r1s squirrel fan mount https://github.com/os1r1s-/misc-parts
Instructions/notes:
- Use a small dab of jb weld to glue the 3mmx6mm screw to the ball. I use one of the boom ends with the magnet in it in a vice to hold the ball. The magnet will help suck the screw down when you are gluing it. Let it cure under a lamp about 12" from the bulb.
- Use a 3mm washer under every ball on the effector and the cheapskate mounts.
- Use 3mm cap head screws to secure the cheapskate ball mounts to the cheapskate carriages.
- Use a longer 3mm screw to cut the threads for the balls in the effector and cheapskate ball mounts. Don't try and thread with the ball
- Use CA to glue the ball ends to the tubes if you don't have a push fit (don't forget to put the magnets in). Make sure all the arms are the same length.
- make sure you use 3/8" outer diameter tubes for the arms cut to exactly 240mm. This will match the firmware #define DELTA_DIAGONAL_ROD 269.0 // mm in configuration.h
- You need to #define END_EFFECTOR_HORIZONTAL_OFFSET 36.5 in configuration.h for the new effector. (if you don't do this you prints will be too large)
- The stock seemecnc hot end will work in this but don't use the standoffs. You want to keep the hotend away from the printed effector.
- I used 1/4" light ply to laser cut the all the dxfs EXCEPT for the J-Head groove mount which is thinner material.
BOWDEN Extruder:
- This bowden extruder derived from tscdan's excellent design.
- Files on my github
- Uses same ptfe pushfit that are on SeeMeCNC Rmax.
- Stepper Kysan 1040222 http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product ... ordID=8318
- Gear on stepper from Stock Drive products. Part number: s10t05m022s0508 https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog
- I am getting 60mm/s retracts with Rambo current set to 115. It is ultra quiet.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsbbOQ1Wqk[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=611yF-Wudi0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cza9-P7ucyo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQCGrZwsbs[/youtube]
Last edited by xnaron on Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:14 pm, edited 33 times in total.
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Very nice!
Are the files up anywhere?
Are the files up anywhere?
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Thanks. I will put them up after I run the first test which should be very soon. Stay tuned.Flateric wrote:Very nice!
Are the files up anywhere?
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Need to verify the geometry is correct in the firmware but it works great!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk39ZMObDo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Nn7FtXDk4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk39ZMObDo[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Nn7FtXDk4[/youtube]
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Looks good, I wouldn't be too concerned about geometry if you have verified arm length, mounting position of balls.
I'd love to have a go at those files soon! LOL
Is holding power fairly decent? Think that it could support a dual hotend setup?
I'd love to have a go at those files soon! LOL
Is holding power fairly decent? Think that it could support a dual hotend setup?
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Nice, I'm interested in trying it.
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
looks nice, I'm going to mill some mounts out of 1/8" aluminum to try out, similiar to the berry bot but based on the seemecnc plateform.
My rostock build log http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1228
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.
I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Here is the first try on the pyramid.
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Some pics
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
We need those files. I have been pondering this same idea, your a genius man. An affordable upgrade to the Rostock Max.xnaron wrote:I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.
I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
Thanks a bunch.
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
That last print sample is mouth watering its so nice.xnaron wrote:Some pics
Testing over, time for public beta test! LOL
Files......files......files.....Can you tell I am anxious for them.
Oh ya, one more thing....
FILES!
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Xnaron, so you had to drill new holes in the cheapskates to mount your printed pieces, right?
The print results look amazing!
The print results look amazing!
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
No I used 3mm screws in the existing holes. I used the outside holes rather then the inside ones.ApacheXMD wrote:Xnaron, so you had to drill new holes in the cheapskates to mount your printed pieces, right?
The print results look amazing!
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Yeah I think that is arguably the best print I have ever made on any of my printers.Flateric wrote:That last print sample is mouth watering its so nice.xnaron wrote:Some pics
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Nice print! Looks like those joints are working out. I think your hot end also as a lot to do with the quality of the prints you are getting.
Can you post a link to that last file you printed? I would like to give that a shot soon. Also I am assuming you are using KISS?
Are the following features on or off:
Z-lift
wipe
jitter
retract
Can you post a link to that last file you printed? I would like to give that a shot soon. Also I am assuming you are using KISS?
Are the following features on or off:
Z-lift
wipe
jitter
retract
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Its the Vica Illusion Sculpture here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5700aerouta wrote:Nice print! Looks like those joints are working out. I think your hot end also as a lot to do with the quality of the prints you are getting.
Can you post a link to that last file you printed? I would like to give that a shot soon. Also I am assuming you are using KISS?
Are the following features on or off:
Z-lift
wipe
jitter
retract
zlift 0.05 (artifact of previous config. I should turn it off. 0.05mm doesn't really do anything as it is so small.)
Prime/Suck/Wipe 5/5/5
jitter 0
It does have a lot to do with the hot end. I couldn't get retraction working properly with PLA on the stock hot end. I'm running the J-Head with the 0.5mm nozzle.
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Thanks! I'm writing up an article on my blog with details and I'll have the files up when I'm done.elqisqeyano wrote:We need those files. I have been pondering this same idea, your a genius man. An affordable upgrade to the Rostock Max.xnaron wrote:I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.
I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
Thanks a bunch.
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Nice work on the printable magnetic joints. Great design.
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
OMG that's amazing the print results speak for itself I didn't even think that was possible to get such good quality
Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
Thanks guys! I am am extremely happy with this setup. I've made a number of prints now and they all come out incredibly beautiful.
Here is an earlier video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
Here is an earlier video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
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Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max
xnaron wrote:Thanks guys! I am am extremely happy with this setup. I've made a number of prints now and they all come out incredibly beautiful.
Here is an earlier video.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
Files up yet?