Xnaron Printable Magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

All things related to the Rostock MAX 3D Printer, the worlds FIRST Delta kit!
Post Reply
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Xnaron Printable Magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

After seeing the awesome Berrybot3D by Werner Berry I got magnet fever and had to have one. I did not have the time to cnc mill and lathe the required parts out of metal so I decided to see if I could make a printable part set. Well I did and it worked better than I could have ever hoped. I'd like to share it with the community so they can benefit from it. Please find the details below. Don't hesitate to post any questions you have in this thread. The details below are a work in progress and I will continue updating them as required.

DSC01018.jpg
DSC01014.jpg
DSC01012.jpg
DSC01016.jpg
DSC01006.jpg
STL's:

https://github.com/xnaron/Xnaron-Magnarms-for-Rostock (openscad files to be uploaded in due course)


Parts:

- Magnets http://shop.revolutionmachines.com/3-8- ... 8-12pc.htm (BE CAREFUL NOT TO LET THE MAGNETS SNAP TOGETHER AND NEVER USE PLIERS ON THEM. THEY ARE FRAGILE AND CAN EASILY BREAK)
- Balls http://www.ebay.com/itm/380140413083
- Alum or carbon fiber tube x 6 @ exactly 240mm long
- 12 x 3mmx6mm cap head allen screws to be jb welded to the balls. Important: Clean the balls and the screws in an acetone bath before gluing.
- JB Weld (Mix it well)
- Assorted 3mm screws, washers and locknuts to mount the components
- CA glue

Optional Parts:

- Squirrel cage fans for cooling PLA. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180389680237
- os1r1s squirrel fan mount https://github.com/os1r1s-/misc-parts

Instructions/notes:

- Use a small dab of jb weld to glue the 3mmx6mm screw to the ball. I use one of the boom ends with the magnet in it in a vice to hold the ball. The magnet will help suck the screw down when you are gluing it. Let it cure under a lamp about 12" from the bulb.
- Use a 3mm washer under every ball on the effector and the cheapskate mounts.
- Use 3mm cap head screws to secure the cheapskate ball mounts to the cheapskate carriages.
- Use a longer 3mm screw to cut the threads for the balls in the effector and cheapskate ball mounts. Don't try and thread with the ball
- Use CA to glue the ball ends to the tubes if you don't have a push fit (don't forget to put the magnets in). Make sure all the arms are the same length.
- make sure you use 3/8" outer diameter tubes for the arms cut to exactly 240mm. This will match the firmware #define DELTA_DIAGONAL_ROD 269.0 // mm in configuration.h
- You need to #define END_EFFECTOR_HORIZONTAL_OFFSET 36.5 in configuration.h for the new effector. (if you don't do this you prints will be too large)
- The stock seemecnc hot end will work in this but don't use the standoffs. You want to keep the hotend away from the printed effector.
- I used 1/4" light ply to laser cut the all the dxfs EXCEPT for the J-Head groove mount which is thinner material.

BOWDEN Extruder:
- This bowden extruder derived from tscdan's excellent design.
- Files on my github
- Uses same ptfe pushfit that are on SeeMeCNC Rmax.
- Stepper Kysan 1040222 http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product ... ordID=8318
- Gear on stepper from Stock Drive products. Part number: s10t05m022s0508 https://sdp-si.com/eStore/Catalog
- I am getting 60mm/s retracts with Rambo current set to 115. It is ultra quiet.
DSC01035.jpg

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWsbbOQ1Wqk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=611yF-Wudi0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cza9-P7ucyo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQCGrZwsbs[/youtube]
Attachments
DSC01033.jpg
DSC01030.jpg
DSC01020.jpg
DSC01008.jpg
Last edited by xnaron on Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:14 pm, edited 33 times in total.
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
User avatar
Flateric
Printmaster!
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by Flateric »

Very nice!

Are the files up anywhere?
"Now you see why evil will always triumph! Because good is dumb." - Spaceballs
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Flateric wrote:Very nice!

Are the files up anywhere?
Thanks. I will put them up after I run the first test which should be very soon. Stay tuned. :)
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Need to verify the geometry is correct in the firmware but it works great!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmk39ZMObDo[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Nn7FtXDk4[/youtube]
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
User avatar
Flateric
Printmaster!
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by Flateric »

Looks good, I wouldn't be too concerned about geometry if you have verified arm length, mounting position of balls.

I'd love to have a go at those files soon! LOL

Is holding power fairly decent? Think that it could support a dual hotend setup?
"Now you see why evil will always triumph! Because good is dumb." - Spaceballs
jesse
Printmaster!
Posts: 422
Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:38 pm
Contact:

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by jesse »

Nice, I'm interested in trying it.
User avatar
cambo3d
ULTIMATE 3D JEDI
Posts: 1057
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:03 pm
Location: Florida

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by cambo3d »

looks nice, I'm going to mill some mounts out of 1/8" aluminum to try out, similiar to the berry bot but based on the seemecnc plateform.
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.

I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
aerouta
Printmaster!
Posts: 185
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:28 am

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by aerouta »

nice
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

First print in progress

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXv-hY9Z4V4[/youtube]
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

and the results

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6P5OHVDKqo[/youtube]
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Here is the first try on the pyramid.
Attachments
DSC01006.jpg
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Some pics
Attachments
DSC01018.jpg
DSC01016.jpg
DSC01014.jpg
DSC01012.jpg
DSC01008.jpg
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
User avatar
elqisqeyano
Printmaster!
Posts: 256
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: Franklin County Ohio

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by elqisqeyano »

xnaron wrote:I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.

I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
We need those files. I have been pondering this same idea, your a genius man. An affordable upgrade to the Rostock Max.

Thanks a bunch.
User avatar
Flateric
Printmaster!
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:35 pm
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by Flateric »

xnaron wrote:Some pics
That last print sample is mouth watering its so nice.

Testing over, time for public beta test! LOL

Files......files......files.....Can you tell I am anxious for them.

Oh ya, one more thing....




FILES!
"Now you see why evil will always triumph! Because good is dumb." - Spaceballs
ApacheXMD
Printmaster!
Posts: 186
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:11 am

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by ApacheXMD »

Xnaron, so you had to drill new holes in the cheapskates to mount your printed pieces, right?

The print results look amazing!
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

ApacheXMD wrote:Xnaron, so you had to drill new holes in the cheapskates to mount your printed pieces, right?

The print results look amazing!
No I used 3mm screws in the existing holes. I used the outside holes rather then the inside ones.
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Flateric wrote:
xnaron wrote:Some pics
That last print sample is mouth watering its so nice.
!
Yeah I think that is arguably the best print I have ever made on any of my printers.
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
aerouta
Printmaster!
Posts: 185
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:28 am

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by aerouta »

Nice print! Looks like those joints are working out. I think your hot end also as a lot to do with the quality of the prints you are getting.
Can you post a link to that last file you printed? I would like to give that a shot soon. Also I am assuming you are using KISS?

Are the following features on or off:
Z-lift
wipe
jitter
retract
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

aerouta wrote:Nice print! Looks like those joints are working out. I think your hot end also as a lot to do with the quality of the prints you are getting.
Can you post a link to that last file you printed? I would like to give that a shot soon. Also I am assuming you are using KISS?

Are the following features on or off:
Z-lift
wipe
jitter
retract
Its the Vica Illusion Sculpture here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5700

zlift 0.05 (artifact of previous config. I should turn it off. 0.05mm doesn't really do anything as it is so small.)
Prime/Suck/Wipe 5/5/5
jitter 0

It does have a lot to do with the hot end. I couldn't get retraction working properly with PLA on the stock hot end. I'm running the J-Head with the 0.5mm nozzle.
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

elqisqeyano wrote:
xnaron wrote:I'll release the files soon guys. I just want to get it printing first. this should happen this weekend.

I calibrated the bed to within 1/1000". The left tower needs a slight adjustment but the other 3 positions are dead on.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOKtggNcO4[/youtube]
We need those files. I have been pondering this same idea, your a genius man. An affordable upgrade to the Rostock Max.

Thanks a bunch.
Thanks! I'm writing up an article on my blog with details and I'll have the files up when I'm done.
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
User avatar
bvandiepenbos
Printmaster!
Posts: 923
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:25 pm
Location: Goshen, IN
Contact:

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by bvandiepenbos »

Nice work on the printable magnetic joints. Great design.
~*Brian V.

RostockMAX v2 (Stock)
MAX METAL "ShortyMAX"
MAX METAL Rostock MAX Printer Frame
NEMESIS Air Delta v1 & v2 -Aluminum delta printers
Rostock MAX "KITT" - Tri-Force Frame
GRABER i3 "Slim"
User avatar
truenorthtrader
Printmaster!
Posts: 148
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:09 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by truenorthtrader »

OMG that's amazing the print results speak for itself I didn't even think that was possible to get such good quality
xnaron
Printmaster!
Posts: 165
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by xnaron »

Thanks guys! I am am extremely happy with this setup. I've made a number of prints now and they all come out incredibly beautiful.

Here is an earlier video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]
The Xnaron Project http://xnaron.com find me also on youtube http://youtube.com/xnaron

3D Printers: Behemoth, Xnaron Prusa Bumblebee, Xnaron Prusa, Jolly Roger, MG Prusa, Rostock Max

Find me on IRC: #reprap, #seemecnc
User avatar
elqisqeyano
Printmaster!
Posts: 256
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:29 pm
Location: Franklin County Ohio

Re: Printable magnetic u-joint option for Rostock Max

Post by elqisqeyano »

xnaron wrote:Thanks guys! I am am extremely happy with this setup. I've made a number of prints now and they all come out incredibly beautiful.

Here is an earlier video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ZNs-i9RIk[/youtube]

Files up yet?
Post Reply

Return to “Rostock MAX”