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Printing in the air

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So this has happened to me on 2 separate Rostocks this week. I press print and it drops to about halfway down the arms and begins printing in the air.

I've just plugged this machine into a USB hub, I don't suppose that could be the issue? MC seems to be printing on the Taz through the hub without issue...

Thoughts?

**EDIT**

Looks like even without the hub it's now still printing in the air...
The previous machine this happened to was plugged into the monitor's usb port so it was essentially a hub as well. I ended up reloading the firmware to get it to work again.

Do hubs mess with the firmware?
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You mean everybody can't print in the air like me?

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Sounds to me like either your Z zero point is screwy or your steps per mm in the firmware is wrong.

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Yes it's true that the z=0 position was set to 240mm for some reason. Still confused how this could happen just by using a usb hub.

I re-zeroed it and it's working fine. I'll test the hub again later...
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McSlappy wrote:So this has happened to me on 2 separate Rostocks this week. I press print and it drops to about halfway down the arms and begins printing in the air.

I've just plugged this machine into a USB hub, I don't suppose that could be the issue? MC seems to be printing on the Taz through the hub without issue...

Thoughts?

**EDIT**

Looks like even without the hub it's now still printing in the air...
The previous machine this happened to was plugged into the monitor's usb port so it was essentially a hub as well. I ended up reloading the firmware to get it to work again.

Do hubs mess with the firmware?

I have had this happen 3 times now, and I believe it is a bug in mattercontrol.

It seems to happen whenever I get excited and try changing the temps a lot on the manual control screen (to preheat for a print). Then my USB comm locks up and I have to reboot the Rambo. after that, My Z-height has been changed to that nice round number of 240.00mm or whatever (maybe the starting point for an Orion? - I have a Max)

As long as I don't impatiently send lots of stuff down the usb port - like hitting 60c for bed temp, changing my mind and hitting 85c, then hitting 85c again when nothing happens...
At least I think it has to do with glomming up the USB link. I don't know for certain.
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Has happened to me in the past as well....

No idea what caused it though...I don't use a usb hub.
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Are you folks using the current 1.2.2 version of MatterControl?

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Yes... And come to think of it, it's only happened on the 1.2.2 version...

And Tonka - I think this is what I was doing. Extruding lots of 10mm lengths of filament. Probably bombing the queue with commands....
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geneb wrote:Are you folks using the current 1.2.2 version of MatterControl?

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I have had it happen on 1.2, and also 1.2.1. I am more patient now and don't press a lot of buttons that send USB stuff rapidly anymore - I have not yet seen it happen in 1.2.2


Oh, and I don't have a USB hub involved - straight connection from the printer to my laptop.
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Yeah I'll be patient for a bit until I figure out what happened :/
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Happened to me after an unrelated computer crash. MatterControl 1.2.2
Just a minor nuisance. Much better than crashing into the bed.
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The title reminded me of this cool project:
WirePrint. It prints 3D models as wireframe previews. By extruding filament directly into 3D space instead of printing layer-wise.

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I was getting this also, I just assumed for some reason it was using the Build Height value and not the Z height from the Eeprom.
RH always uses the Eeprom value as far as I can tell.
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Happens to me as-well with MC when the connection was set to auto. It would stop the print from the SD card and occasionally change the z height.
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this also happens to me. Only at times, it not only prints in air, the hot end will ram/plunge itself to one of the axis tubes before it prints in midair. I had to emergency stop on a few occasions. I disconnect, reload gcode and i'ts fine again.
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