E3D V6 nozzle, something wrong.

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E3D V6 nozzle, something wrong.

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I'm installed E3D V6 .
Looks like I have a trouble with E3D nozzle.

e3d nozzle different than stock nozzle

[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mRIAAOSwF ... -l1600.jpg[/img]

[img]https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0276/ ... 1382543478[/img]

e3d nozzle have a different geometry.
some print fail :(

It's looks like scratches and pulls models, after that delta arm can make mistakes with layers. :(
Maybe some one know what to do ?
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E3D and SeeMeCNC nozzles are not interchangeable.
If you have an E3D hotend on your machine you must order the nozzles elsewhere.
E.g.: http://e3d-online.com/E3D-v6/Extra-Nozzles
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The first picture looks like a Chinese knockoff of an E3D nozzle. The authentic E3D nozzles are machined differently.
[img]http://e3d-online.com/image/data/v6/400px/Series.jpg[/img]
[img]http://e3d-online.com/image/cache/data/ ... 0x1000.jpg[/img]

The second picture looks like the SeeMeCNC design. You are correct that they are not interchangeable.
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Re: E3D V6 nozzle, something wrong.

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He did say that installed a v6 hotent, but I think that he can't explain himself very well.

The problem seems to be scars on top of the surface and the print being pushed away by the hotend.
All of the problems related to the nozzle.

Check this guide
https://www.simplify3d.com/support/prin ... eshooting/
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Indeed, if those are your own E3D nozzles, and they came with your hotend, you most likely have a fake (Also, if the box didn't have gummy candies in it, it was definitely either fake or a bad repacker.) It's pretty obvious from the lack of chamfers on the corners off the hex's (A sign that at best they looked at the white-print, rather than looking at it and the actual nozzles) and the lack of indicator pips on the flats (Although we may not be seeing them in the photo, I presume they are lacking).

I believe they probably also have the wrong dimensions in some ways. It's hard to tell that by picture, especially if they lack the indicator pips. If you don't mind, could you name/shame your source for those?

As an aside, assuming the nozzle is properly machined and functioning properly, there should be a small amount of dragging as those flats are there to help flatten the trace and surface, where the stock nozzle has no lands for that purpose.
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Tincho85 wrote:He did say that installed a v6 hotent, but I think that he can't explain himself very well.

The problem seems to be scars on top of the surface and the print being pushed away by the hotend.
All of the problems related to the nozzle.

Check this guide
https://www.simplify3d.com/support/prin ... eshooting/
I have a Layer Shifting. I'm think trouble with moving speed.

After I install ed3d. I'm go to advanced settings -> calibrate Z height
After this i'm push-> store to EEPROM and maybe load EEPROM ,one time. I'm not sure. :roll:


Guys please go to
advanced settings ->acceleration
and write me what you can see: print, move and jerk

Speccialy if you have a E3D
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Tincho85 wrote:The problem seems to be scars on top of the surface and the print being pushed away by the hotend.
All of the problems related to the nozzle.
Hmm, don't pay too much attention to the pictures, both were not taken by himself. Both are widely available through google search...
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darkjorik wrote:I have a Layer Shifting. I'm think trouble with moving speed.
So why do you post irrelevant pictures of nozzles that are not even your own?
darkjorik wrote:After I install ed3d. I'm go to advanced settings -> calibrate Z height
After this i'm push-> store to EEPROM and maybe load EEPROM ,one time. I'm not sure. :roll:
Before you push "store to EEPROM" you should lower the nozzle to catch a piece of paper until it drags. Plenty of explanation to this using the search on this forum.
darkjorik wrote:Guys please go to
advanced settings ->acceleration
and write me what you can see: print, move and jerk.
Speccialy if you have a E3D
1850 / 3000 / 35
But I don't see the relevance of this considering the previous quotes, and also not the fact that you have an E3D. Those values do not need to be changed for an E3D hotend. Hope it helps though...
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DeltaCon wrote:
darkjorik wrote:I have a Layer Shifting. I'm think trouble with moving speed.
So why do you post irrelevant pictures of nozzles that are not even your own?
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Because E3D nozzle have a bigger contact area with layers.
More friction when nozzle moving

I have a 1850 / 3000 / 35 too
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DeltaCon wrote:
Tincho85 wrote:The problem seems to be scars on top of the surface and the print being pushed away by the hotend.
All of the problems related to the nozzle.
Hmm, don't pay too much attention to the pictures, both were not taken by himself. Both are widely available through google search...
I know. That was muy guess of why he posted those pictures.


If you have shifting try printing slower.
Check that you are not overextruding and causing big blobs. The hotend can collide with them and shift.
If they happen on the exact place, check your belts, pulleys, anything mechanical related.
Could it be a too hot stepper motor skipping steps?
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darkjorik wrote:Because E3D nozzle have a bigger contact area with layers.
More friction when nozzle moving
If it is friction during non-print moves you mean, try a z-lift during non-print moves in your slicer.
The print, move and jerk values are most likely not used, because the settings in your slicer take priority.
So if you want to try printing slower like Tincho suggests, lower the speed in your slicer, not in your firmware.
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