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Real wax filament interested? Video added!

Postby DavidF » Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:36 pm

I do alot of investment casting and also lost pla casting. The lost pla is great, but there are a couple of draw backs you run into with it. Ever since ive had my printer i was wishing a printable wax filament would come out. I saw on 3ders a couple weeks ago the the company that produces laywood was coming out with a wax filament, but the temp for extrusion seemed too high to be a wax. Could be a polypropylene blend? Any how i bumped into another person who was creating a true wax filament that may be exactly what im looking for. I hope to have a spool of thier wax filament for trials in the next 2 weeks.
My question to you all is, would you have a use for a wax filament? I can see myself using it for my casting work, making molds for resin casting, and heck even 3d printing yoda head candles.
What other uses could it have and what would you do with it?
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby Jimustanguitar » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:28 am

Investment casting is definitely the main thing that a lot of us want to do, so you're right on with that one. (and the exact right guy to test it out for the community!)

Would it be a machinable wax? I could see that being useful.

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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:28 am

Im pretty sure its machinable, would almost have to be. Guess Ill be finding out in 2 weeks.....
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:09 am

Just got the new filament in for testing...Havent printed anything yet, but it looks and feels promising.....If I didnt want to stay married I would be printing with it right now. :o
This filament has a very low extrusion temp so cleaning out the nozzle before changing over would be important. (for lack of better terms)
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby Jimustanguitar » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:17 am

Sounds good so far. How low is the printing temp?

For me, investment casting is a cool enough prospect that I'd probably just buy a dedicated hot-end for it. The ebay clones would probably do a nice job at lower temperatures.

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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby craftymethod » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:35 am

Where did you get the filament from? You are keeping us in suspense?!!

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Postby Durandal » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:39 am

Definitely interesting. If a Filament can be processed for investment casting traditionally then anyone could print in it and hand the parts over to be professionally casted, opening up steel and iron casting, and other high temp materials which backyard forges can't or won't pour.

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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:07 am

Ill be putting a video together on friday. The printing temp is about 145C. This is a pre production prototype spool just to test the application for printing and casting. I didnt notice it right off but its cinnamon scented as well :D
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Postby BenTheRighteous » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:57 am

What a bonus! :lol:
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Postby bot » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:49 pm

I want it just for the scent! :mrgreen:
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby jram » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:24 pm

Can't wait to see this, I'm very interested. Right now we're having to print an object, clean it up, make a silicone mold, pour victory brown wax in and then dip the wax in ceramic shell slurry. .(13 dips to build a3/8-1/2 shell) after attaching a cup and sprue material.
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:28 pm

just purged the nozzle with the new filament....WoW!! you can really smell the cinnamon. Thats sure to keep the wife happy! 3D printed candles anyone??? :D :D :D
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Postby Jimustanguitar » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:24 am

DavidF wrote:just purged the nozzle with the new filament....WoW!! you can really smell the cinnamon. Thats sure to keep the wife happy! 3D printed candles anyone??? :D :D :D


How are you gonna work out a wick extruder though?

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Postby jdurand » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:26 am

Same way commercial candles are made. Leave a hole, drop the wick in from the bottom, stick a label over it to hold it in.
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:37 am

Jimustanguitar wrote:
DavidF wrote:just purged the nozzle with the new filament....WoW!! you can really smell the cinnamon. Thats sure to keep the wife happy! 3D printed candles anyone??? :D :D :D


How are you gonna work out a wick extruder though?


I was going to use my mobiusdifferomoushypactounslungiousdifferactoscadniumelplatus...what else would one use??
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Postby bvandiepenbos » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:47 am

A wax filament would be very useful for castings.
sounds like a win to me.
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby bot » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:08 am

You could print the candle solid and use a really hot, really long needle to thread the wick through, with a metal stop thing tied to the bottom/end of the wick. No need for hole, though the hole could work just as well if not better. A combination of the two might be best. Slightly undersized hole, so the heat really seals the wax onto the wick.
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Postby mechneering » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:50 pm

I'm way interested in this! I too print a ton of lost pla molds. I have been experimenting with wax extruder ideas, but what I really wanted was a filament. I would love to get on board with testing this as well. Is this wax filament coming from the people who make the laywood?

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Postby DavidF » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:08 pm

mechneering wrote:I'm way interested in this! I too print a ton of lost pla molds. I have been experimenting with wax extruder ideas, but what I really wanted was a filament. I would love to get on board with testing this as well. Is this wax filament coming from the people who make the laywood?


No, not them... Ill be letting the cat out of the bag on friday :D :lol:
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby briankb » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:03 am

I'm definitely interested, doubly so if the wax is also machinable.
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Postby Mac The Knife » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:21 am

DavidF wrote:
mechneering wrote:I'm way interested in this! I too print a ton of lost pla molds. I have been experimenting with wax extruder ideas, but what I really wanted was a filament. I would love to get on board with testing this as well. Is this wax filament coming from the people who make the laywood?


No, not them... Ill be letting the cat out of the bag on friday :D :lol:



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Postby Jimustanguitar » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:32 am

^^yeah, what he said!^^

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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby teoman » Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:45 pm

I just watched this and found it very interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFZMfBXxMxk

They are trying to automate 3d printing a part in PLA and then casting in out of aluminium. They are using microwaves to melt it which was the most interesting part for me.

Here is the project page:
http://hackaday.io/project/2434/logs
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Re: Real wax filament interested?

Postby DavidF » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:18 pm

teoman wrote:I just watched this and found it very interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFZMfBXxMxk

They are trying to automate 3d printing a part in PLA and then casting in out of aluminium. They are using microwaves to melt it which was the most interesting part for me.

Here is the project page:
http://hackaday.io/project/2434/logs


Im not the slitest bit impressed. Saw that video awhile ago....all I can say is IDIOTS!

Video will be coming soon. I have the wax printing well, just got tied up at work. Went to work tuesday at 3pm came home thursday at 7 am, slept all day yesterday, brain dead today...
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