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Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby drunkenmugsy » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:15 pm

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wr3d/the-diamond-hotend-single-nozzle-multi-color-3d-pr

This seems to be a well thought out hotend to me for multi color/material extruders. Maybe the only drawback will be the cost of new tips? I will be keeping an eye on this one even though it will require many changes to go on a maxV2.

Is there a 3 extruder controller board that is plug and play for the maxV2?

It cant be much more mass than a kraken from the looks of it. The small mix chamber is the interesting part to me. Much less waste and time printing to your wipe tower.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Nylocke » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:22 pm

RUMBA, Azteeg X3 Pro, and the Melezi can handle it easily. RUMBA is probably the cheapest.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby BenTheRighteous » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:13 pm

Obvious question... is this legit or an April Fools' joke?

If there's supposed to be an obvious gotcha revealing it, I'm not seeing it. :P
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Nylocke » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:20 pm

The diamond hotend orr??

The diamond is a real thing, I saw something in the 3D hubs newsletter a while back about it. All I saw was the 3 color marvin, and I didn't pay it much mind, but it looks pretty cool. I think it *may* be better than the cyclops design (from a force standpoint), but time will tell.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby BenTheRighteous » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:43 pm

Lol yes I was asking about the diamond hotend. Didn't mean to insinuate that your controller insights were the joke! Haha, my bad.
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby 3D-Print » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:54 pm

Is there a consensus on if this new HotEnd is the new next best thing?
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Nylocke » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:22 am

The kickstarter is still going, so I don't think theres much to say about it yet. Looks promising though.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby 3D-Print » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:54 pm

Nylocke wrote:The kickstarter is still going, so I don't think theres much to say about it yet. Looks promising though.


Thanks, I was hoping someone had some early insight or had their hands on a pre-release.
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby CRPerryJr » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:54 pm

The order went in today for about $60.00 shipped, without the heatsinks. (Heat Cartridge, Thermistor, and screw and wire kit included.)

Diamond Hotend

Additionally, I'll need this stuff: (sourcing and prices may vary, this was just a quick search for what I needed.)

E3D Heatsinks (V6) x3

E3D Heatbreak (Stainless Steel) x3

RUMBA Printer Controller

Stepper Drivers x6

Ezstrudersx2

I may include a new ATX power supply. I don't know if I'll be able to re-utilize the LCD display panel already in the printer, so that may need to be sourced as well.

A mount will need to be designed, but I think that shouldn't be difficult if combining something similar to the existing E3D mount with the top mounted cold end (PEEK) fan. I also plan to use more of jfettig's great designs and mount my EZStruders on the exterior (Top) of my printer.

Did I miss anything?

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby 3D-Print » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:11 pm

Just ordered my E3D HeatSink and Heat-Break!
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby jesse » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:14 pm

Mine arrived in the mail today. I ordered some parts for it on aliexpress.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby CRPerryJr » Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:13 pm

Diamond Hotend mount for Rostock Max

Printing this now to see how it'll work out. It's already missing the tabs to mount the layer fans, but that should be easy enough to add.
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby CRPerryJr » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:41 am

First attempts:

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Polygonhell » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:52 pm

Mine turned up, it appears to be missing the insulating sheets, did anyone else receive them with theirs?

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby jesse » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:20 am

Polygonhell wrote:Mine turned up, it appears to be missing the insulating sheets, did anyone else receive them with theirs?


No, but I only ordered the nozzle. Here's some insulation: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271673466700

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby prussiap » Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:05 pm

jjust got mine too.. any idea how to get this sucker on a rostock max v2 ? I'm assuming some soldering and firmware changes but that's beyond my current knowledge on the machine :)

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Polygonhell » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:06 pm

They sent out the fire blanket pieces and I did most of the assembly on mine last week, if I can bring myself to turn on a soldering iron with the heat here over the weekend I'll run off some test prints with it.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby prussiap » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:19 pm

trail blaizer!!.. take pictures.. how are you doing test prints? Will you start with just one color? I'm assuming some fimware changes will bee needed to control the three filament servos? That and I guess i'll have to remove my ez-struder?

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Polygonhell » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:18 pm

I got as far as printing a test cube with a single extruder before it hit about 85 degrees in my office, I'll dick around with the firmware tomorrow and run something with dual extrusion. The single color test was nice, so I'm interested in seeing the results of dual extrusion.
I have lots of extruders here, at least 4 EZStruders, 2 are on the printer currently, if the dual extrusion looks good I'll knock up an extra driver for the Rambo on a bread board and try all 3.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Polygonhell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:17 pm

Just an update and a general warning to other people assembling these.
I managed to start a few 2 color prints, and they looked pretty good until they failed. My issue was that I have not sufficiently tightened the E3D thermal breaks into the brass heater block, and the back pressure while extruding was causing the plastic to escape through the thread, then dribble down the hotend drip onto the model and eventually when the head hit it cause the print to fail. Short version is I have to strip mine down and rebuild.

Generally I think it will end up being a good solution, you have to be careful not to retract too far, but the color transitions are very good.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby prussiap » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:43 pm

thermal breaks? Do you mean the heat dampening thing you showed before? i never got any of those? I was "considering" using my brown gasket stuff there.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby critical_limit » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:12 pm

@polyhonhell:

pics please, single, dual and triple color prints. All of what you do with it.
My Max Metall is waiting to decide if it worth to go triple color printing....


pics, pics, pics


or better:

clips, clips, clips


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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Polygonhell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:33 pm

prussiap wrote:thermal breaks? Do you mean the heat dampening thing you showed before? i never got any of those? I was "considering" using my brown gasket stuff there.


The stainless steel pieces with the heatsinks from E3D, I did tighten them hot which your supposed to, but didn't use a tool to do it and as a result the PLA leaks through the screw thread. My fault, I just need to strip it down get rid of the PLA and re-assemble properly.

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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby Renha » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:17 am

CRPerryJr wrote:First attempts:

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Hmmmm, the model you linked at previous post and one shown here are liiiitle different... I really want to have last one to print
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Re: Interesting new Diamond hotend 3x filament

Postby CRPerryJr » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:25 pm

Here is the latest try at setting up my Diamond Hotend...I'm a little worried about clearance of the arms during close maneuvers to the edges of the print bed. Hopefully the arms don't hit the cooling fins.
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