Rostock MAX purchase poll

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Why Did you Choose the Rostock MAX?

Design
65
27%
Speed
2
1%
Community
12
5%
Build Volume
99
41%
Kit vs Assembled
40
17%
Other
21
9%
 
Total votes: 239

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Peterh226 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:39 pm

RegB wrote:My "other(s)" were
a) The manual. Reading that BEFORE ordering really convinced me that all the bits would fit together and "probably" work.
b) This forum. In particular the constructive criticism given on... THE MANUAL !
and of course the spirit in which Gene received and used it.
c) Price, "under $1K" being yet another one of those weird psych barriers (-:
d) Build volume. Bigger is sometimes better, though I had some reservations that precision/accuracy might suffer with long travel & long drive path.
e) Precision of laser cut parts, the alternative being my lack of (ply)wood working "skills" )-;
f) OK, I'll admit it - polar coordinates vs Cartesian - - seemed kinda off-beat - - it APPEALED to me (-:


You nailed all of my reasons as well. Read the install guide, ordered the connectors and other stuff, now waiting for the V2 to ship! WooHoo.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Ascensi » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:16 pm

1.Volume
2.Quality
3.Speed
4.Support
5.Style/design
6.Price/Kit
5.Mod ability/multi-purpose

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by BONE » Mon Nov 10, 2014 5:33 pm

cassetti wrote:I Selected the Rostock Max for several reasons:

1) I wanted a Delta 3D printer, SeeMeCNC had the best kit at the time
2) Rostock Max had the largest build volume of all printers in my price range ($1000 and under)
3) SeeMeCNC had a solid reputation and a large community forum (better than my previous experience building a RepRap!)
4) The Rostock design was already 8-9 months old, it appeared to be a relatively stable design (much better build design than my Prusa i2 experience!)


Most of my complaints about the Rostock Max have already been fixed apparently according to my recent review of GeneB's new assembly manual. Really wish I had waited about 6 months longer before buying the kit. Oh well, live and learn. Maybe I'll buy an Orion off you guys next year!


What he said. I'm being lazy.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Fiddler2070 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:14 pm

Pretty much all of the above!

It wasn't just one option.

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by redoverred » Mon Nov 17, 2014 10:51 pm

For all of the reasons to follow:

1) Price. At $1000 plus free shipping (at the time) it was the best value in printer for what you get stock and what you can do with it later.
2) Delta. I wanted a delta because they are faster and simply cooler looking than others. They are harder to calibrate, but I'm doing this as a hobby.
3) Upgradability. You can do a thousand different little things to make this printer PERFECT. You can print with pretty much any material you want once you upgrade the stock hotend to an E3D or something all-metal.
4) Build Volume. I liked the 280mm X ~350mm+ volume. You can't get that in a printer that has such a low desk space requirement elsewhere.
5) Community. I rarely, if ever, have to go outside the SeeMeCNC Forums to get ANY sort of support needed. Everyone here is helpful and literally every mod that can be done and every problem that can be had with these printers has been meticulously documented.
6) Kit. I wanted to assemble my own printer so I knew the ins and outs of it and had something to be proud of when showing it to friends and family later. "It makes me feel like a big man" to be able to do this myself.
7) American made. I'm not a super-pro-American patriot-type person, I'll buy stuff from China if it works, but in the 3D printer realm I have seen so much crap being peddled by companies in China, Taiwan, etc. European and American printer brands are built VERY well and the European brands such as Ultimaker were out of my price range and simply not as good of a deal as the Rostock Max v2. I guess this could be considered more of a "Quality made" heading rather than "American made", but they're both synonomous for the most part right now.
8) Not cheap wood. The parts are made from the melamine boards, whatever that is (I still don't know, I suspect some sort of plastic sandwiching dense fiberboard?), and they hold up to humidity well. I live in Hawaii, so it was either metal or something else that held up well in humidity above 65%.
9) The instruction manual for the kit. Holy shit, it's even better now than even 2 months ago when I build mine!

Some things I would improve:
*Note: These things are easy enough for a person to do themselves, but would be nice to have included stock for those who are stretching their technical abilities with simply building the kit. There are a lot of smart engineer types on here, but not everyone is that inventive.
1) A STOCK ALL-METAL HOTEND. Screw that PEEK crap. Sorry, but for the quality of the printer I would happily pay another $50-75 to get a stock E3D v6 included sans the relatively crappy resistor-laden PEEK hotend.
2) Some ABS included. I ordered some, but it would be nice to have a pound of ABS included for people who don't know they need it for the PEEK fan. Although that can be solved with #1 above.
3) Better ventilation in the base. I would think an 80mm or 92mm fan on one of the side panels or venting out the bottom right behind the RAMBO would be sufficient, but with the bed at 90-100C the inside gets what I would call dangerously hot for the electronics. Even with 2 80mm fans, one push / one pull, I get temps up to 40C+ inside the bottom case. I am scared to think how hot it got before those things were on there! Also, maybe put some vents on the plexiglass panels to allow more airflow with the aforementioned fans.
4) A better method for spool holder. The stock spool holder is really annoying in that the spool keeps getting caught on the edge. Something rounded would be nice. Maybe just a length of PVC pipe to fit around that arm would be sufficient even.

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Earthbound » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:59 am

Borrowing many of the well stated reasons that redoverred gave.

redoverred wrote:For all of the reasons to follow:

1) Price.
2) Delta.
3) Upgradability.
4) Build Volume. I liked the 280mm X ~350mm+ volume. You can't get that in a printer that has such a low desk space requirement elsewhere.
5) Community.
6) Kit.
9) The instruction manual for the kit. Holy shit, it's even better now than even 2 months ago when I build mine!

Some things I would improve:
*Note: These things are easy enough for a person to do themselves, but would be nice to have included stock for those who are stretching their technical abilities with simply building the kit. There are a lot of smart engineer types on here, but not everyone is that inventive.

2) Some ABS included. I ordered some, but it would be nice to have a pound of ABS included for people who don't know they need it for the PEEK fan. Although that can be solved with #1 above.
3) Better ventilation in the base. I would think an 80mm or 92mm fan on one of the side panels or venting out the bottom right behind the RAMBO would be sufficient, but with the bed at 90-100C the inside gets what I would call dangerously hot for the electronics. Even with 2 80mm fans, one push / one pull, I get temps up to 40C+ inside the bottom case. I am scared to think how hot it got before those things were on there! Also, maybe put some vents on the plexiglass panels to allow more airflow with the aforementioned fans.
4) A better method for spool holder. The stock spool holder is really annoying in that the spool keeps getting caught on the edge. Something rounded would be nice. Maybe just a length of PVC pipe to fit around that arm would be sufficient even.


Fantastic value for capability/quality that it has. I was considering dropping $2K+ on Lulzbot but price of Rostock Max drew my attention.
While the Delta is fascinating to watch, my criteria was based on wanting a machine with a large X-Y area and preference for a non-moving build plate. I may never use the height capacity, but it's available for someday.
Kit was a plus. I like to tinker and building it from the ground up means you know the assembly tricks.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by BenTheRighteous » Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:45 pm

My first criteria was $/volume, but a very close second was "how reliable and easy to fix is it?"

My thoughts were basically:
- I haven't seen anyone who owns a MAX be less than enthusiastic
- It's a kit so if I built it myself then I understand every nut and bolt in the thing for if/when something goes wrong
- The community is great so if I'm really stuck, I can get help

Seemed like the MAX hit the trifecta of reasonable price, reliable, and easy to fix.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by cplbob » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:19 pm

This was our family's first 3D printer. We chose the Rostock Max v2 because:

1. By assembling the kit we would come to understand the inner workings, and be able to correct malfunctions or repair it in the future.
2. The impressive build volume.
3. The ability for SeeMeCNC to deliver the product in days rather than weeks or MONTHS.
4. The reputation for amazing customer service.
5. Maybe this should have been higher, but one of my work acquaintances bought one first. He seemed to really like it.

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by johnoly99 » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:39 am

Dawwwwwww, we love all you guys and it's pretty awesome to drop in here from time to time and read some of these comments. Keep up the good work, i think we are :D

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Proto » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:33 am

Not sure if I should vote or not, since I have yet to make the purchase. But here are my ideas in order...

  1. Design - I find the movement of the Delta Style Machines to be, fascinating.
  2. Build Volume - Ok kind of obvious
  3. Community
  4. Kit vs Assembled
  5. Speed - being an old school Machinist, I have to admit looking at mmps doesn't mean that much (I always worked in Inch / Ips and I'm to/too/tutu lazy to convert :o )

It would be very hard for me to pick just one.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by PartDaddy » Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:17 pm

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by SoCalSteve » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:22 am

The price was pretty damn good compared to what else i saw on the market. I've been looking for a very specific minimum build volume. The Rostock falls short by a little; a little is just as bad as a lot. The way I see it though is that i'd rather chop my projects up into 3rds because its a little small rather that 40 parts because its tiny. I build big... I need a big printer...

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by add1ct3dd » Thu Nov 27, 2014 4:47 am

cope413 wrote:My other is "all of the above" + value.


Exactly this!

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Chrissi » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:15 pm

Proto wrote:Design - I find the movement of the Delta Style Machines to be, fascinating.

I have said before "This is like a laser pointer in a room full of cats" :lol:
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by mvansomeren » Mon Feb 02, 2015 3:23 pm

After a waste of time and money on the EZ3D Phoenix printer (never was able to print one thing!), I decided to look for a printer with a good track record. At first I was leaning towards the Orion so that I could begin printing out of the box. But, after giving it some thought, there were many more advantages (in my mind) from going with the Rostock Max V2, not the least of which is building it.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by telephase » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:58 pm

Agree with all the the above reasons.

Previously used a Makerbot Replicator 1 & 2. Got fed up when they sold out and the quality went down while the closed source / difficulty in working on them went up. Afraid to even touch a 5th Gen Makerbot.

Saw a SeeMeCNC RostockMAX V1 in action at a 3D printing event at the Chattanooga Public Library, and thought it was the best thing I'd seen in 3D printing. Never had seen a delta printer in action before. There were a bunch of other printers at the event, various Makerbots, RepRaps, and some homemade customs. The RostockMAX made all the rest look kind of a couples years behind it. Everyone there agreed the RostockMAX looked like a winner for the next time to purchase a printer.

Just finished building my RostockMAX, and couldn't be happier.

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by jdurand » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:32 pm

I had to click Other. After using the Afinia for a few years I've pretty much maxed out what I can do on it. We're going to keep it, it still does some things well. The final straw was when I had new projects come up that required "food safe" filament and also some of the more exotic mixes. Well, I could NOT get the Afinia to print PLA from other companies. Sent it in for repair, $350 later is STILL doesn't print other brands. I had put a temperature adjust on it so I could print other brands of ABS but was stuck. So, we started looking for a new printer that COULD print other materials and also had a larger build volume. I ran across all the people happy with the SeeMeCNC printers so we were going to get an Orion, but figured we might as well get the cheaper, larger printer. Building wasn't a problem, we build electronics every day.

I also remembered seeing one working at one show (don't remember the show, it was a few years ago) when a client I ran into dragged me over to talk to some Maker he was impressed with who had a booth near the printer. I wasn't impressed with the person, but I guess the printer stuck in my mind.

So, reasons:
Versatility
Build Volume
Customer reviews
Price
Saw one working.

I've since bought a copy of Simplify3D software as I don't have time to muck around trying to figure out why somethings not working. Their build visualization alone let me tweak a model until it looked like it would print...and it did...until the PEEK fan died (new one being installed today).

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Cheeto » Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:12 am

Well besides value, the fun of building it, quality, build volume, support, community, ......... The main reason is my buddy has one and I am very impressed with what he has accomplished with his,and the fact that I always have help a phone call away if needed!

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Red Sand » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:51 am

johnoly99 wrote:If you chose other, please explain.

I can't put one characteristic above any other - my decision was based on many things. Some of this might sound a little stupid but here goes, in no specific order of priority:

  • the people who make the machine - seem to be an impressive, well qualified group
  • the instruction manual(s) and other online help
  • the V2 upgrades (the first generation always has room for improvements, eh?)
  • the ability to use non-proprietary material (I hope this is correct)
  • the potential printing area is large
  • the resolution
  • I get to build it - not only do I enjoy a good build but by building it I'll really get to know the machine, very helpful when performing maintenance, adding upgrades, or fixing it if . . . when something goes wrong
  • the anticipation of having parts available, if/when needed
  • IT's A FREAKIN DELTA PRINTER! These things are off the scale when considering the "ultimate in coolness" factor




johnoly99 wrote:Thanks guys

So, you're assuming no women partake of the forbidden fruit also known as 3D printing?

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by predawnsky » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:02 pm

price and build volume, the rostock has the largest build volume for the price, plus i love kits

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by CRPerryJr » Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:21 pm

My "Other" is that it was the best kit on 3dhubs for 2015 , had a large print volume, could be customized, and wasn't overly expensive.
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by emsoll » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:35 pm

I purchased by Rostock MAX at the MakerFaire in Dearborn, MI in July 2014 when I met the SeeMeCNC crew and got to talk to them about the printer. Everyone at the booth was great and it made me feel that it was not only a great printer but had great people behind it. The price and build volume were probably the biggest two factors in purchasing the unit. After a year, it still runs great and am still finding new things to try. I did replace the head about six months back with an E3D but other than than one change it runs pretty stock.

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Tincho85 » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:52 pm

Build Volume and Community.
I liked the price also, but would love if you could offer good upgrades for those willing to pay for them.

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A full metal kit maybe?
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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Qdeathstar » Sun May 01, 2016 12:14 pm

I knew I wanted my next printer to be a delta, and I wanted to have a build vsize of around 300mm. I had considered sourcing everything myself, but that is quite an undertaking, and since a lot of things come from Chiba I think it would have taken forever.

I liked the think3dbuild3d metal frame, carbon fiber arms and electronics much better than the Rostock maxv wood frame, 16bit electronics, and plastic arms but the size volume was too small. And the Rostock was the number one rated printer on 3dhubs and has a lot of good reviews so I decided to go for it.


So far I'm pleased with my choice

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Re: Rostock MAX purchase poll

Post by Span24 » Sun May 01, 2016 6:09 pm

We have 2 V2s and an Orion. Why?

Because Delta!
Because Value!
Because Quality!
Because Close to Me (right down the street here in Goshen)!
Because Community!
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