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Delta Build

Postby jstone3769 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:29 pm

I'm in the process of building a delta printer. I've gotten to the point where the extruders "work" and the machine responds to the commands I give it. I have an Orion and a rostock max v3 but I really wanted to try and make my own.

I am having some printing issues and was wondering if anyone had any clue what could be happening.

I printed a 20mm cube and ended up with a roughly 12mm cube.

The printer has a Cyclops hotend and I plan on adding a heated bed when I get the rest working.
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Re: Delta Build

Postby IMBoring25 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:55 pm

How did you establish the steps per mm and the diagonal arm length?

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Re: Delta Build

Postby jstone3769 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:33 am

I'm using 400 mm arms, gt2 20 tooth pulleys, gt2 belts, and 1/16th microstepping.

Is the diagonal arm length different from the arm length?

I calculated the steps per mm at 80 which was the same as what I have for my Rostock max v3.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby dc42 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 am

Was the cube 12mm in all of X, Y and Z? If so, that points to a steps/mm errors, although 80 sounds right for that configuration. If the Z height was 20mm and only X or Y were 12mm, that is an issue with diagonal rod length setting or calibration.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby jstone3769 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:12 pm

I went through and measured everything again and now the cube is 17.51 in X and Y and 17.42 in the Z..

It seems like I am going on the right direction.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby nebbian » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:29 pm

Are you sure they're not 16 tooth pulleys? Looks like you need 100, not 80 as the steps/mm value.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby jstone3769 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:48 pm

I was certain until you asked me about it...What's the best way to count pulley teeth?...

A bunch of the components came from a sainsmart kit with motors and pulleys so I'm not 100 percent sure about the specs.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby Eric » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:13 pm

If the belt is off the pulley, mark one tooth with a pen and start counting teeth as you turn the pulley. When you get back to your starting point, you have your count.

If the belt is on the pulley, mark the belt against a fixed reference point. Rotate the pulley exactly one turn (add a mark to the top of the pulley if you need a reference), then make another mark on the belt. Count the teeth on the belt between the two marks.

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Re: Delta Build

Postby Jimustanguitar » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:29 am

The pulley teeth and resultant steps will effect your Z height scaling. This is a known quantity based completely on the pulley's circumference, and you should consider a "fixed" number after you calculate and confirm the proper value. The diagonal rod length is the arm length, yes. It's the exact length (center pivot to center pivot) of the arms, and this value will effect your XY scaling.

Get your ballpark values a little bit closer, and then here's the guide that I recommend for getting your scaling fine tuned. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1439048


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