Strange arms initial movement

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Strange arms initial movement

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Hi guys, please I need some help here. This problem has been troubling me since I switched to CuraEngine.
When the print starts, the movement of the arms till they reach the printing area stops 2 times.

At first I thught it was a belt tension issue, but no, this only happens when using CuraEngine, not with Slic3r.


Here is a video of the problem in question:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGb9PChLzwA[/youtube]


I've tried:
less speed.
different g-code starts.
different 3d models to print.


Here are both G-codes, maybe someone can see something wrong.
CuraEngine start G-code generated for a 20x20x10 cube:
Spoiler:
;Generated with Cura_SteamEngine 14.09
G21 ; set units to millimeters
M190 S110 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached
M104 S240 ; set extruder temperature
G28 ; Home extruder
G1 Z300 F3000
M109 S240 ; wait for extruder temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0 ; reset extruder
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
;Layer count: 50
;LAYER:0
M107
G0 F9780 X18.658 Y18.658 Z0.200
;TYPE:SKIRT
G1 F1020 X-18.658 Y18.658 E1.34671
G1 X-18.658 Y-18.658 E2.69342
G1 X18.658 Y-18.658 E4.04013
G1 X18.658 Y18.658 E5.38684
G0 F9780 X18.219 Y18.219
G1 F1020 X-18.219 Y18.219 E6.70187
G1 X-18.219 Y-18.219 E8.01689
G1 X18.219 Y-18.219 E9.33192
G1 X18.219 Y18.219 E10.64694
G1 F2400 E7.84694
G1 Z0.700
G0 F9780 X8.903 Y8.903
;TYPE:WALL-INNER
Slic3r start G-code generated for a 20x20x10 cube:
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; generated by Slic3r 1.1.7 on 2015-06-29 at 01:02:40

; perimeters extrusion width = 0.30mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.30mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.30mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.30mm

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M190 S110 ; wait for bed temperature to be reached
M104 S240 ; set temperature
G28
G1 Z300 F3000
M109 S240 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1500.000 E-3.00000
G1 Z0.400 F12000.000
G92 E0
G1 X15.800 Y0.000 F12000.000
G1 Z0.200 F12000.000
G1 E3.00000 F1500.000
G1 X15.800 Y10.000 E3.33925 F1200.000
G1 X15.403 Y12.108 E3.41202
G1 X14.268 Y13.927 E3.48478
G1 X12.549 Y15.210 E3.55754
G1 X10.000 Y15.800 E3.64630
G1 X-10.000 Y15.800 E4.32481
G1 X-12.108 Y15.403 E4.39757
G1 X-13.927 Y14.268 E4.47033
G1 X-15.210 Y12.549 E4.54309
G1 X-15.800 Y10.000 E4.63185
G1 X-15.800 Y-10.000 E5.31036
G1 X-15.403 Y-12.108 E5.38312
G1 X-14.268 Y-13.927 E5.45588
G1 X-12.549 Y-15.210 E5.52865
G1 X-10.000 Y-15.800 E5.61741
G1 X10.000 Y-15.800 E6.29592
G1 X12.108 Y-15.403 E6.36868
G1 X13.927 Y-14.268 E6.44144 F1200.000
G1 X15.210 Y-12.549 E6.51420
G1 X15.800 Y-10.000 E6.60296
G1 X15.800 Y-0.060 E6.94018
G1 X15.400 Y0.000 F12000.000
G1 X15.400 Y10.000 E7.27943 F1200.000
G1 X15.004 Y12.031 E7.34962
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Re: Strange arms initial movement

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M'y Printer has always donde this.

But the stop stare not so pronounced.


It Seems almost as if the lowering was divided in to three phases. But then you would expect the final phase to be slower.
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Mine did that when slicing with matter control, but never has with S3D. I do get other weird behaviors when I run my calibration script - it accelerates twice on a simple straight medium-speed move.
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They all do it, it's an issue in the firmware, that is triggered by very long linear moves, so Slicer can be a contributor, basically AFAICS the code that breaks the move into parts for the delta calculation has a very small buffer and it ends up getting starved/can't keep up with the motion.
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I have seen the same thing.
Never has caused any issues that I am aware of.
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Re: Strange arms initial movement

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Thanks for your feedback!
So it's normal, one less thing to worry about :)
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