Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
SeeMeCNC user notes for the 4 axis HY-TB4DV-M 4 Driver Board.
This board is a common import and the manufacturer has some common problems. With only a little effort, you will find this a very reliable, powerful, and inexpensive control solution for your SeeMeCNC 3D Printer. This board makes SeeMeCNC machines the FASTEST available today!
There are no drivers, firmware, bootloaders, version concerns, etc. It's old school cool. Just plug into a desktop PC parallel port and begin.
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Reference document about the 4 Axis Stepper Control Board:
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Copy the following XML file into your Mach3 installation folder. Right click, and extract. Close folder. Choose "Mach Loader" (should be on your desktop after download and install from Artsoft) and you will see this profile automagically listed. This will 'launch' Mach3 with all the right start up settings.
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If your motors go 'dead' when you reset the e-stop, check this: Following MHackney's post screen shots above, and specifically referring to the "OUTPUT SIGNALS" tab on the "PORT & PINS" dialog box, you might need to reverse the "Active Low" settings. We had to do this on one of our PC's at SeeMeCNC headquarters. If the 'enable' pin and "Active Low" settings on these outputs are reversed, the stepper will receive power during an "Emergency Stop". Then turn off when the E-Stop is reset. Simply open the "PORTS & PINS" and go to the "OUTPUT SIGNALS" tab. Then reverse the setting under "Active Low" for each "Enable 1, Enable 2, Enable 3, Enable 4).
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Setting your axis calibration is pretty easy. Don't feel overwhelmed at all the settings. However, you should refer to the Mach documentation.
Look right above the emergency stop reset button. "Set Steps per Unit". You will choose an axis, move a specified amount, measure, then enter actual distance moved. Mach will make adjustments to your motor tuning 'steps per' based on your data entry.
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And a photo of the 4 axis stepper control board.
DIP SWITCHES IN THIS PHOTO ARE SET to go with the 'Mach-Loader' Profile above. The A axis for extruder (not spindle) is Slic3r ready! The photo also shows jumpers installed on a HY-TB4DV-M:
~PartDaddy~
This board is a common import and the manufacturer has some common problems. With only a little effort, you will find this a very reliable, powerful, and inexpensive control solution for your SeeMeCNC 3D Printer. This board makes SeeMeCNC machines the FASTEST available today!
There are no drivers, firmware, bootloaders, version concerns, etc. It's old school cool. Just plug into a desktop PC parallel port and begin.
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Reference document about the 4 Axis Stepper Control Board:
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Copy the following XML file into your Mach3 installation folder. Right click, and extract. Close folder. Choose "Mach Loader" (should be on your desktop after download and install from Artsoft) and you will see this profile automagically listed. This will 'launch' Mach3 with all the right start up settings.
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If your motors go 'dead' when you reset the e-stop, check this: Following MHackney's post screen shots above, and specifically referring to the "OUTPUT SIGNALS" tab on the "PORT & PINS" dialog box, you might need to reverse the "Active Low" settings. We had to do this on one of our PC's at SeeMeCNC headquarters. If the 'enable' pin and "Active Low" settings on these outputs are reversed, the stepper will receive power during an "Emergency Stop". Then turn off when the E-Stop is reset. Simply open the "PORTS & PINS" and go to the "OUTPUT SIGNALS" tab. Then reverse the setting under "Active Low" for each "Enable 1, Enable 2, Enable 3, Enable 4).
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Setting your axis calibration is pretty easy. Don't feel overwhelmed at all the settings. However, you should refer to the Mach documentation.
Look right above the emergency stop reset button. "Set Steps per Unit". You will choose an axis, move a specified amount, measure, then enter actual distance moved. Mach will make adjustments to your motor tuning 'steps per' based on your data entry.
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And a photo of the 4 axis stepper control board.
DIP SWITCHES IN THIS PHOTO ARE SET to go with the 'Mach-Loader' Profile above. The A axis for extruder (not spindle) is Slic3r ready! The photo also shows jumpers installed on a HY-TB4DV-M:
~PartDaddy~
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Fantastic, thanks very much.
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Currently working on the jumpers settings for the 4 axis board. What did you use for the jumpers? Kinda looks like staples. Also wondering what the top jumper setting is, hard to see PIC attached.
Thanks for all your help,
Mtizle
Thanks for all your help,
Mtizle
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Looking at the 4 Axis board the 12v and Ground terminals have 3 wires connected. Just to make sure I have the correct wires connected they are as follows:
12V Terminal
1 from power supply
2 from Thermostat
Ground
1 from power supply
1 from Heat resistor (Hot end resistors)
1 Thermostat
Pic included
Thanks for any help,
Mtizle
12V Terminal
1 from power supply
2 from Thermostat
Ground
1 from power supply
1 from Heat resistor (Hot end resistors)
1 Thermostat
Pic included
Thanks for any help,
Mtizle
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Hey mitzle. John here. You will want to bring 3 yellow 12V lines from the PS and 3 black gnd lines from the PS to the 3 axis board. Run seperate power/ground lines from the PS to the heater board, this will help with any signal interference. The axis board can be "noisy" and running the lines from the PS seems to eliminate this. Also, your hot end resistors ground wire comes back down and doubles up on the thermostat boards ground wire. That's fine. And you should have a jumper from the thermostat board going into the COM (center lug) on the relay terminals, and then the NO terminal runs up to the other side of the heating resistors.
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Can you give me a visual example of this? Don't really understand the procedure. Took a look at the thermostat board and I think in my wiring diagram has it this way.And you should have a jumper from the thermostat board going into the COM (center lug) on the relay terminals, and then the NO terminal runs up to the other side of the heating resistors.
Mtizle
Last edited by mtizle on Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Created an updated Wire diagram for the 4 Axis board. Added jpg and pdf files. Wanted to add the visio file also but not allowed. Next will be the 4 axis Jumper and Dip switch settings. Edit Diagrams Verified.
Mtizle
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
4 Axis Board Dip switch and Jumper Settings Diagram. Settings were taken from photo found on this post by Seemecnc admin. Would it be alright to use solid core wire for the Jumpers? Looks like you used some kind of staple or solid core material. Edit - Diagrams Verified - Went ahead and used 22 gauge solid core wire for Jumpers, added a pic of my finished board with Dip and Jumper settings.
Mtizle
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Anyone have a Motor Tuning profile for the Z axis? On the first page of this post are X, Y, and A but no Z.
Mtizle
Mtizle
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Ok, Here is my Z Axis tuning. It's been working great for me.
cheers,
Michael
cheers,
Michael
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The Eclectic Angler
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Thank you so much,
Mtizle
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Can we please have a mach3 setup and board swich setting post.. Official Post.
I know I should know everyones name, but at the moment I don't. So I don't know who to listen to.
The current posts don't seem to match. So PLEASE post an official setup in the document area, where the manuals are. It will releave the frustration.
Alan
I know I should know everyones name, but at the moment I don't. So I don't know who to listen to.
The current posts don't seem to match. So PLEASE post an official setup in the document area, where the manuals are. It will releave the frustration.
Alan
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Unfortunately, we can't post the Mach XML file here. I wrote the manuals and the configs in this thread that I posted are what I'll put in the 4 axis Electronics Manual. Just look at my screen shots at the start of the thread. I inadvertently left out the z motor tuning, that was posted yesterday.
Cheers,
Michael
Cheers,
Michael
Sublime Layers - my blog on Musings and Experiments in 3D Printing Technology and Art
Start Here:
A Strategy for Successful (and Great) Prints
Strategies for Resolving Print Artifacts
The Eclectic Angler
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Mastercaster all diagrams posted by me have been verified to be working diagrams.
Mtizle
Mtizle
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
In my "SeeMeAdmin" post above (on top of second page), The Z and A axis dip switches should be set the same, for 1/8 stepping. X and Y are set for 16th microstepping.
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Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Yup.
Went over the settings very carefully and used the slic3r settings for 3mm,.02 yoda. A little fiddling and WOW. fantstic prints on Plexiglass with ABS.. Hard to belive the print quality. Thanks for a great product.
Only thing we need is some kind of good feed system. The machine needs a little tending cause the filiment tends to jump over each other and jam.. But with a little tending no real problems.
Alan
Went over the settings very carefully and used the slic3r settings for 3mm,.02 yoda. A little fiddling and WOW. fantstic prints on Plexiglass with ABS.. Hard to belive the print quality. Thanks for a great product.
Only thing we need is some kind of good feed system. The machine needs a little tending cause the filiment tends to jump over each other and jam.. But with a little tending no real problems.
Alan
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Below are my Motor Tuning Profiles. They turned out to be double of that of mhackney's configs. I also had to reverse the motor direction for the correct + and - direction.
Mtizle
Mtizle
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
You probably have your 34 Axis board configured for a different micro step than I do, that's why your steps per are doubled. I think I have mine configured for 1/8 stepping. How is yours configured?
Cheers,
Michael
Cheers,
Michael
Sublime Layers - my blog on Musings and Experiments in 3D Printing Technology and Art
Start Here:
A Strategy for Successful (and Great) Prints
Strategies for Resolving Print Artifacts
The Eclectic Angler
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
No idea what the stepping is... is that configured on the board by the jumpers? My jumper settings came from Steve's with Seemecnc. So you think it could be set to 1/16 micro step right now?
Mtile
Mtile
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Tizle, yeah, the board you looked at up in the lobby was 1/16 stepping.
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Hi,
I am curious if anyone installed limit switches? Do you have photos or diagrams? Thanks!
I am curious if anyone installed limit switches? Do you have photos or diagrams? Thanks!
Re: Mach 4-Axis Board Configuration
Hello
I am new to seemecnc and I have a quick question that I hope you guys can help me with. I have had a 4 axis board for a while now and I think it may be an older one because everything looks the same except my dip switch only have 2 switches per box instead of 6 as shown in your pictures. Will this affect the jumper fix? Thanks in advance.
I am new to seemecnc and I have a quick question that I hope you guys can help me with. I have had a 4 axis board for a while now and I think it may be an older one because everything looks the same except my dip switch only have 2 switches per box instead of 6 as shown in your pictures. Will this affect the jumper fix? Thanks in advance.