My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

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My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby stough » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:25 am

This post is intended as a teaser and a bit of a goad to get me to fill out the information. Initially, I'm just posting a list of my upgrades, but I'll fill it out as time permits in the order that interest dictates. Some of the mods are based on available things (at Thingiverse), but others are designs that I have not uploaded yet. I will also fill out the post with pictures as time permits. Feel free to ask me about what interests you.

I have had my Rostock Max v3 for a bit more than a year now and I love it. I've had my issues, but I now feel like I have it dialed in and have grokked as much of the parameter space as one can in just a year as a hobbyist. It is my first printer, so it has been an adventure. :mrgreen:

Without further ado, here is my upgrade list:


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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby Mekra » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:15 am

I don't see the Duet and FSR in there. :D
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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby stough » Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:26 pm

I was just reading up on the HE280 probe converter so that the probe works on the Duet. That is one that i want to do, but I have build two effectors that incorporate the HE280 boards and love the auto-calibration (I use the plugin on OctoPrint).

So, what is FSR? I'm always looking for ways to pimp my printer. ;)

EDIT: Force Sensitive Resistors - Aren't they another tool for bed leveling? So far the probe on the HE280 has been working great for me on three different effectors. What is the advantage of FSR?

Unrelated: I just got my heated enclosure going and did my first ABS print (225C nozzle, 90C bed, 40C enclosure) and had perfect bed adhesion to the BuildTak, no warping, and great layer adhesion. Now I need to reprint my heating manifold and effectors in ABS because PETG is still too heat sensitive. :D

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby geneb » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:53 am

FSRs are used under the heated bed, supporting it at 3 points. When the nozzle taps the glass, the FSRs & their controller board turn that into a switch closure that the controller can see as contact with the bed. That's how the FSR probing system works.

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby stough » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:43 pm

Gene,

Are FSR's superior to the HE280 accelerometers?

Since the Octoprint Delta Cal Plugin, I've been getting excellent calibration on my Rostock. However, I do like the idea of the even more adaptable calibration with the Duet.

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby geneb » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:38 am

For our purposes, they're probably equivalent. The FSR is easier to use with the Duet though.

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby Mekra » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:03 pm

I have had way better luck with calibration with the Duet and FSR than with the Rambo and accelerometers. Then again a more advanced calibration can be run on the duet. In Addition the Duet is so much quieter than the Rambo, if you are into that sort of thing, as well as a very nice web control and a easy way to use custom macros.
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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby geneb » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:52 am

You're going to get better calibration on the Duet just by virtue of the more powerful CPU. That being said, the RAMBo can get pretty close if you use the delta calibration plugin for Octoprint.

I recently upgraded Orange Menace (a v1) with a DuetWifi. I've also got a v1 (Blue MAX) that's got a Duet Ethernet in it. The difference in stepper motor sound between the two was astonishing.

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby stough » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:32 pm

Thanks. I have the Duet on my list of future upgrades.

Sound doesn't matter since my printer is in a detached garage. And, while the calibration really would have been a draw, like Gene said, the OctoPrint plugin works wonders. I can print anywhere on the bed and get a beautiful first layer.

Most important right now is getting my enclosure heating and electronics cooling all dialed in. After recently doing my first ABS print, it was so strong and heat resistant that I'm hooked.

I'm also working on the Prometheus System dual extrusion (single nozzle). Does the RAMBo have some problem with two extruder motors? That might get me to go with the Duet sooner...

-Tim

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby PengLord » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:17 pm

I have added the FlexPlate system and came up with this enclosure after using the enclosure in the OP so I didn't have to mess around with fan the shrouds anymore.
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2525853 (shameless self-promotion)

I hadn't heard about the OctoPrint Delta Calibration plug-in, I'll have to try that out. I have had only nightmares printing on anything other than the bare glass plate (glue on the glass works fine).

Do you have any links to the low-profile bed clips and vented parts?

When can you post photos of your printer?

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby stough » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:24 pm

PengLord,

Your interest has spurred me to start posting. I'll be uploading to Thingiverse and here with images today. I started with a quick post at Thingiverse of my bed clips for the FlexPlate as you need those ASAP.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2801924

I have pics to post, but they will take a bit of time to process and upload.

I really like your enclosure. How did you bend the acrylic? It is nice that you have room for the stock fans. :)

Thanks for asking!
-Tim

PS. I updated my case enhancements and posted a thing... https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2802367

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Re: My Rostock v3 Max Modding/Upgrade Adventure

Postby PengLord » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:30 pm

Thanks for posting the models.

I'm using PETG so it's flexible enough to bend without issue. I picked it up at Alro Plastics for ~$50.

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Re: Pictures!

Postby stough » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Here are some current pics of my printer. I was printing ABS with the enclosure heated to 40C when this picture was taken.

Cheers,
Tim

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