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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dmo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:16 pm

dc42 wrote:I am out of ideas. I think it's time for you to request a replacement board from your supplier.

Thank you for all of your help on this. I'll send another message to Filistruder. I think he copied you on the last one. The Wfi board sounds pretty exciting.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby CRPerryJr » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:59 pm

noishi wrote:I'm getting ready to convert my machine to a duet, and am wondering if somebody can help explain what I am seeing.

I flashed both my duet board and Paneldue to v1.14 successfully, but when I connect my PanelDue to my Duet and power both boards via USB connected to the Duet, The PanelDue screen blinks around 1/sec. Everything appears to work fine in terms of the touch screen and navigating the menus, but it just blinks on/off.

If I plug in USB to just the PanelDue, I get no blinking and everything else is fine. I have nothing else connected, just the paneldue to the Duet board via the supplied 4 pin dupont connector (havent converted it to a kk connector yet). I wanted to know if this is normal before I start taking my machine apart. I also tried 1.12a-dc42 firmware and paneldue 1.12 but saw the same results.

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You need more power than what the USB can supply. Mine does that blinky thing too if I leave it connected to my computer via USB after cutting main power (printer power) to the boards. Once you have it wired to your printer's power supply, it'll be fine.
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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby noishi » Mon Jul 11, 2016 5:41 pm

CRPerryJr wrote:
noishi wrote:I'm getting ready to convert my machine to a duet, and am wondering if somebody can help explain what I am seeing.

I flashed both my duet board and Paneldue to v1.14 successfully, but when I connect my PanelDue to my Duet and power both boards via USB connected to the Duet, The PanelDue screen blinks around 1/sec. Everything appears to work fine in terms of the touch screen and navigating the menus, but it just blinks on/off.

If I plug in USB to just the PanelDue, I get no blinking and everything else is fine. I have nothing else connected, just the paneldue to the Duet board via the supplied 4 pin dupont connector (havent converted it to a kk connector yet). I wanted to know if this is normal before I start taking my machine apart. I also tried 1.12a-dc42 firmware and paneldue 1.12 but saw the same results.

Thank you!

Hi Noishi,

You need more power than what the USB can supply. Mine does that blinky thing too if I leave it connected to my computer via USB after cutting main power (printer power) to the boards. Once you have it wired to your printer's power supply, it'll be fine.


Perfect, thank you for the explanation! :D

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dc42 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:54 pm

noishi wrote:
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noishi wrote:I'm getting ready to convert my machine to a duet, and am wondering if somebody can help explain what I am seeing.

I flashed both my duet board and Paneldue to v1.14 successfully, but when I connect my PanelDue to my Duet and power both boards via USB connected to the Duet, The PanelDue screen blinks around 1/sec. Everything appears to work fine in terms of the touch screen and navigating the menus, but it just blinks on/off.

If I plug in USB to just the PanelDue, I get no blinking and everything else is fine. I have nothing else connected, just the paneldue to the Duet board via the supplied 4 pin dupont connector (havent converted it to a kk connector yet). I wanted to know if this is normal before I start taking my machine apart. I also tried 1.12a-dc42 firmware and paneldue 1.12 but saw the same results.

Thank you!

Hi Noishi,

You need more power than what the USB can supply. Mine does that blinky thing too if I leave it connected to my computer via USB after cutting main power (printer power) to the boards. Once you have it wired to your printer's power supply, it'll be fine.


Perfect, thank you for the explanation! :D


It depends on your computer and the size of the display you are using. A typical desktop computer with 500mA capacity on the USB ports can power a Duet + PanelDue + 4.3" screen without any problem, and can just about (or if you are unlucky, not quite) power them if the screen is 5". However, the 7" screen needs 680mA by itself, which is too much for a USB port.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dmo » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:15 pm

dc42 wrote:I am out of ideas. I think it's time for you to request a replacement board from your supplier.

Just want to follow up. Everyone was great at getting me a new board. Everything works perfect with the new one. Had it hooked up and running in 30 minutes. The IR probe also works great.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dc42 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:32 pm

Thanks for letting us know!

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby MrJoe » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:23 am

I'd like to thank dc42, mhackney, geneb and other forum users for all of the great information they posted on the Duet controller.
It was technically challenging and rewarding to make this upgrade and I couldn't have done it without your help.

I installed the Duet 0.8.5 and the DC42 IR sensor board and I'm very pleased with the results.
The Duet Web Control is very easy to use and presents a lot of information very clearly. And being able to edit config.g from the DWC is a great feature.
The printer sounds quieter and makes different sounds than the RAMBO controlled version did.
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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby mhackney » Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:53 am

That's great Joe. Once you've experienced Duet and David's delta auto calibration, delta kinematics, and Christian's Duet Web Server (and optionally, David's touch screen PanelDue) along with a probe like the IR probe or FSRs you can't go back! And being able to do firmware updates from the web interface without compiling is a fantastic feature. Use a DuetWifi and you have a completely wireless solution (or add a simple inexpensive wifi bridge to your 0.8.5.)

I assert that simply swapping a RAMBo for a Duet is fairly straightforward. It basically involves replacing most of the connectors since the two boards use different connectors. (NOTE: the ONE thing I would change on Duet would be the connectors to the same ones RAMBo uses, they are positively latching and polarized). But, to get the most out of it, a probing system is required and that does take a bit of work. Now that the V3 has an integrated accelerometer probe and the HE280 system is available as an upgrade, support for it dc42 firmware would make a Duet update super easy. I acknowledge there are concerns about the long run (potentially) of the SPI and possible interference from the heater and other wiring. In practice, I have not had a single hiccup on my V3 and I've done a lot of probing in 5 days. I've started investigating porting the accelerometer code and interface over and perhaps David will investigate the option.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby adarcher » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:13 pm

mhackney wrote:That's great Joe. Once you've experienced Duet and David's delta auto calibration, delta kinematics, and Christian's Duet Web Server (and optionally, David's touch screen PanelDue) along with a probe like the IR probe or FSRs you can't go back! And being able to do firmware updates from the web interface without compiling is a fantastic feature. Use a DuetWifi and you have a completely wireless solution (or add a simple inexpensive wifi bridge to your 0.8.5.)

I assert that simply swapping a RAMBo for a Duet is fairly straightforward. It basically involves replacing most of the connectors since the two boards use different connectors. (NOTE: the ONE thing I would change on Duet would be the connectors to the same ones RAMBo uses, they are positively latching and polarized). But, to get the most out of it, a probing system is required and that does take a bit of work. Now that the V3 has an integrated accelerometer probe and the HE280 system is available as an upgrade, support for it dc42 firmware would make a Duet update super easy. I acknowledge there are concerns about the long run (potentially) of the SPI and possible interference from the heater and other wiring. In practice, I have not had a single hiccup on my V3 and I've done a lot of probing in 5 days. I've started investigating porting the accelerometer code and interface over and perhaps David will investigate the option.


Wait, does the duet have i2c support? Are you documenting your progress somewhere? I'd love to follow along.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby mhackney » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:15 pm

Search my thread here I am documenting it.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby adarcher » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:18 pm

mhackney wrote:Search my thread here I am documenting it.


Oof, I'll crawl through these 12 pages in this thread later tonight. Be nice if it was in it's own thread and labeled. All I've found otherwise here is that it's not possible.

*now I'm seeing there are only a few posts since the accelerometer board has be released. Also, I realized I hastily commented and quoted a large block without highlighting what I was talking about. I'm interested in your comment on porting over the accelerometer stuff to duet. Are you documenting that somewhere?

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby aerouta » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:41 am

"Send M562 H# where # is the heater number."

This is at the bottom of the Duet wiki page "https://duet3d.com/wiki/Spurious_heater_faults_and_how_to_avoid_them#How_to_reset_a_heater_fault_without_restarting_the_Duet"

This did not clear the faults for me, has anyone successfully used this command?

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby IMBoring25 » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:37 am

Yes. The RepRap g-code reference says it should use a P parameter, not an H parameter. Also, are you using the right number? The bed should be P0. The first extruder should be P1.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dc42 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:02 pm

IMBoring25 wrote:Yes. The RepRap g-code reference says it should use a P parameter, not an H parameter. Also, are you using the right number? The bed should be P0. The first extruder should be P1.

Thanks for pointing that out. I have corrected the wiki page.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby DeltaCon » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:16 pm

I received a duet 0.6 board last week through T3dP3d. Now it has those green screw terminals for the stepper and thermister cabling. What is the smartest way to connect everything, without just cutting off the connectors of the existing cabling? I like to keep the possibility to connect the rambo again. Not because of distrust in the duet ;-) but because of when I decide to by or make a metal frame, I can keep the old one going with the rambo...

I could make some adapter cables, but would it be smarter to use a IDE cable and go with that?
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Postby Xenocrates » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:35 pm

DeltaCon wrote:I received a duet 0.6 board last week through T3dP3d. Now it has those green screw terminals for the stepper and thermister cabling. What is the smartest way to connect everything, without just cutting off the connectors of the existing cabling? I like to keep the possibility to connect the rambo again. Not because of distrust in the duet ;-) but because of when I decide to by or make a metal frame, I can keep the old one going with the rambo...

I could make some adapter cables, but would it be smarter to use a IDE cable and go with that?


I would just make little pigtails. The only way I can think of to use an IDE cable would be on the expansion header, and you'd need stepper drivers and other hardware for that to work properly.
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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby DeltaCon » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:42 pm

It seems to me that all the screwterminal positions also have a position on the IDE style pins. They are labelled identically. But I think I read a warning somewhere to not do this, because of possible problems delivering enough power for the motors. I think "pigtails" is the way to go indeed.
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Postby mhackney » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:51 pm

I make little piglets myself - that way I can swap out controllers to test new ones very easily. I use the locking molex connectors like the RAMBo uses for these since they lock.

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Can you please make a suggestion to the used connectors? I am having difficulty finding the right type of molex, that I can solder or crimp to a cable instead of mounting on a pcb... Thanks!
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mhackney wrote:http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?t=5694

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby mhackney » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Make sure to get the correct pins - the female side has a different pin than the male side. I assert these should be used on all controller boards - positive lock. I took my Kossel250 to a presentation I gave last night and the 4 pin PanelDue connector came loose. I forgot which of the pins it attached too so I had to look it up minutes before my presentation started.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby dc42 » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:03 am

mhackney wrote:Make sure to get the correct pins - the female side has a different pin than the male side. I assert these should be used on all controller boards - positive lock. I took my Kossel250 to a presentation I gave last night and the 4 pin PanelDue connector came loose. I forgot which of the pins it attached too so I had to look it up minutes before my presentation started.

I guess you were using a Duet 0.6 then? The 0.8.5 and the WiFi have locking connectors.

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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby DeltaCon » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:28 am

Yes, we were talking about a Duet 0.6 which I got for a nice price. Of course I never considered the connectors beforehand, and I read in your blog about desoldering the screwterminals, but I am most likely not a solderguru like you ;-) so I wil have to think up some adaptercabling.

Wouldn't these fit instantly?
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But they will probably block the neighboring endstop connections...
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Re: Duet setup - instructions in progress

Postby mhackney » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:49 am

Hmm, David yes, I think that printer must be a .6 Duet as I think about it now. I have to many printers with Duets to keep track of! (that's a good thing)

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